I agree 100%..the only "savings" I have found on our parts is to get as close as possible to the manufacturer and cut out the "middle people"
Nice write-up... Ollie----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Charette" <stevec@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2009 8:34 AMSubject: Vendors - where parts come from - was RE: Need reference for Windshield Gasket
Gary, You hit the nail on the head - with very, very few exceptions onevendor has a part made, then distributes it to others. Some of the catalog houses claim to make parts, but they do in fact simply have the parts made.You will find very few who actually build the parts themselves. A good portion of these parts are made offshore. This means large batch sizes and long lead times - a vendor may have to buy hundreds or thousands of a part to get them produced at a marketable price. Bear inmind that when you look at a part and think "I can't believe this part costs$X", that the person who had it reproduced probably had to buy manythousands of dollars worth of these parts in order to sell you one, and thatthere is a good possibility that they will go to their grave with these parts sitting on a shelf. As we embrace the new "world economy", the parts are easier to havemade, and turnaround time is quicker. Some new parts are made with the sametooling and molds as the previous batch; some parts get new, improved tooling, usually at significant expense. In the case of a new part or aremake requiring new tooling, this process seldom takes less than 9 months.Part quality (materials, fit and finish) has become easier to control with improved communication and fierce competition among manufacturers abroad.There are some instances where an unhappy previous supplier will build partsand flood the market with cheap, often inferior parts once they find they have been replaced. If you've seen any of the new body parts (trunk floors, floors,etc.) you know that the new parts are a huge, huge improvement over what was previously available. You would also be stunned at the money that has beenspent to make these parts, even though they are made overseas. There is a huge list of new, high quality body parts headed our way for the '62-'65 cars that represents a massive investment by a few individuals - you can actually build a whole new '69 Road Runner unibody today, should you sodesire. These folks have gambled that these parts will sell - if they sell well, more parts will follow. If the parts languish on the shelves, chancesare good that additional part development will cease. Some parts sell too few to be worth building overseas. These parts provide a market for myself and a few others who hand build parts anddistribute to dealers and catalog houses. Generally these parts are made toorder, which keeps inventory cost down and allows more part numbers to be made at less investment. Most of us are small "mom and pop" type outfits and everybody working there wears a number of hats... when you're not getting an answer on the phone there's a good chance whoever is on the phones is running a machine or out picking up supplies. The bottom line is that most generally, vendors sell the same parts. In some instances you may find that a supplier has a batch of older generation parts that may or may not fit, look, and last like the newerpieces. You will find alot of these "deals" on eBay. When you order a newpart, be sure to carefully remove it from it's package and check it out as soon as it arrives. Make sure the fit and finish meet your expectations, and be sure it will fit your application. Compare it to the old part orparts on yours or your buddies' cars. If you're not happy with the quality,contact the vendor BEFORE you discard/destroy the packaging, or makemodifications to the parts. In the vast majority of cases, the vendor willtake the part back and refund your money if the part is in new, unused condition. If the packaging or instructions need to be replaced, or the part is modified, bent, shelf worn, dusty, dingy, etc., expect to pay arestocking fee. Often the best thing to do with these parts is to list themon eBay. And that, boys and girls, is where parts come from. SC -----Original Message----- From: Gary H. [mailto:spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 11:14 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Need reference for Windshield Gasket The Accessories - Trim - Rubber Parts - Emblems - Misc. section lists several vendors in the http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/restoration-sources.html section. You can check with Jim Kramer too; Kramer Automotive Specialties is in the "One Stop" section there.A lot of times one vendor makes the part and many distribute it. Don't knowwhere Year One bought what they distribute. Thanks, Gary H. -----Original Message-----There are a few venders who carry them, I purchased mine from Year-One mostly be default as I had one of their coupons to use up. My wife and I installed the windshield with no major problems, the seal fit well. I redid a 67 GTX some years ago and the seal we used then was horrible, I can't remember where it came from but it was lousy. Good Luck! Joey----- Original Message -----Any recommendations on who to purchase front rubber from, for 65 Satellite? The windshield?guy told me to get one that was close to OEM as I could get and that some aftermarket mouldings don't fit right. Thanks in advance.Vic Raz 65 Satellite---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person --directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiationsas well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. ----Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks!'62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.
---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.