RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas
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RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas



I thought maybe you were going to use it in your tank? Perhaps it would 
both seal leaks and increase octane???

Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
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Gary Pavlovich wrote:
> 
> Agreed, but it makes a great gasket sealant.
> 
> Gary P.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <Dodger7998@xxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010 3:38 PM
> Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Careful Gary,,,,,,,,,that cheeze whiz is not like fine wine aged to
> perfection
> 
> 
> In a message dated 1/28/2010 4:55:00 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> glpavlovich@xxxxxxx writes:
> 
> 
> Ahhh, Yoda-Master Bill, aka "Hot-Rod Harrison;" your humble  servant in
> training (not training pants again...) do acknowledge some  "wing of 
> bat,
> eye
> of nute" concoctions of yore and monstrous  transformations that forbad
> many
> a would-be racer at the stroke of  midnight to challenge a finned
> monoclonal
> beast of the Mastodon class -  our beloved finned Fury's and the like.
> 
> I will look for some "vintage"  moth-balls at my 89 yr.old mother's 
> house;
> found a crusty tin of "Glass  Wax" yesterday and a 1974 jar of Cheese
> Whiz...
> 
> Gary Pavlovich
> -----  Original Message ----- 
> From: "William Harrison"  <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent:  Thursday, January 28, 2010 6:33 AM
> Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in  gas
> 
> 
> Some times grasshopper it is better to listen to experience and  not 
> look
> down on the old ways.
> Many witches brews and home remedies are  the basis for many of todays
> modern
> meds.
> And the old time racers that  used moth balls  ground them up into a 
> fine
> powder before they added  them to their gas, that's from one of my 
> uncles
> who
> worked the pits for my  dad when he raced, and he also told me that it 
> was
> common practice to  replace all filters back then because they raced on
> dirt
> but they never  had trouble with carbs or gas tanks being gunked up.
> Later
> Bill  Harrison
> 65 Coronet 2 dr post
> 
> --- On Tue, 1/26/10, Gary Pavlovich  <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > From: Gary Pavlovich  <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in  gas
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Tuesday, January 26,  2010, 8:30 PM
> >
> > Interesting discussion on moth balls and  octane.
> >
> > I hardly trust our current fuel mix let alone a  witch's
> > brew, but I think I
> > just repeated myself. Anyhow I  have come
> > across/investigated the following
> > two octane  boosters that show merit; a significant real
> > octane boost for
> >  minimal cost p/gal outlay.
> >
> > The two boosters are MachTane and  Kemco Octane Supreme
> > 130. I ordered one
> > qt. of the MachTane  and a case of the Kemco 130.
> > Additionally, if either
> > product  shows merit I may be buying regular to large
> >  quantities.
> >
> > Anyhow, the information is out there now and if  anyone else
> > gives it a test
> > let me know your results and we  can compare notes.
> >
> > I would suspect that our 91 pump unleaded  swamp-water in CA
> > is good for 9.5
> > to near 10 to 1 compression  MAX depending a great deal on
> > internal engine
> > factors where  the 10 to 1 ratio is concerned.
> > However, I am extremely
> >  encouraged that a true 10 to 1 compression engine can be
> > run  economically
> > with either of these boosters; testing to follow.  If
> > I am correct in my
> > pre-assessment, the cost basis would be  approx. a $1 p/gal.
> > increase in fuel
> > cost to run a 10 to 1  motor.
> >
> > I will keep you posted.
> >
> > Gary  Pavlovich
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Herb"  <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To:  <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2010  2:50 PM
> > Subject: RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in  gas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The guys that I know that used  mothballs and swore by them
> > had a five gallon
> > gas can that  they did their secrete mixing in and then
> > poured the  concoction
> > through a paint filter in a funnel stuffed with  cheese
> > cloth directly into
> > their tank, and then filled it with  Sunoco 260. They
> > also had two inline
> > filters on their cars.  Don't recall that they had any
> > fuel problems, or any
> > that they  would talk about. If I remember correctly I
> > read that  mothballs
> > mixed with gasoline added an extra oxygen molecule to  the
> > mixture, so it
> > makes sense that it would make more HP  somewhat like a
> > crude precursor to
> > the nitros set-ups of  today. We also had a guy that
> > swore the purple dye
> > that Martin  Gas Co. put in their ethyl was his secrete
> > performance  enhancer.
> > That said I also remember one guy bragging that he
> >  ran jet fuel mixed with
> > his gas. The problem with that is jet fuel is  just
> > diesel fuel run through
> > another refining process. And  regular gasoline is two
> > or three more steps
> > above that. Now if  he was bragging that he used the
> > high octane Aviation
> > Gas like  I ran then he might have something to brag
> > about. I used to  keep
> > my mouth shut and used their bragging as leverage to spot
> >  me a couple of
> > cars or more just to make the race even. (-;
> >  Just my two C!!
> >
> >          
> >   Herb
> >
> > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361
> > 1959 Coronet 326  Poly
> > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1
> > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible  361
> > 1970 Challenger RT 440 - 4 Sale
> > 1999 Durango SLT  5.9
> > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1
> > St. Louis, MO.
> >
> >  http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  -------Original Message-------
> >
> > From: Doug Jacobsma
> >  Date: 1/26/2010 3:54:46 PM
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >  Subject: RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas
> >
> >
> > I haven't  tried it either. What I've been told is it
> > will leave enough  to
> > eventually gunk up your fuel filter. Atleast thats
> > what the  Harley guys
> > have found.
> >
> > Jake
> > '63 Sport Fury  'vert
> > '04 Harley  FXDWG
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  ----------------------------------------
> > > To:  1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > From: tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >  > Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas
> > > Date: Tue, 26  Jan 2010 07:59:00 -0700
> > >
> > > What kind of residue does it  leave. Would it buildup
> > in your tank and
> > > fuel  lines?
> > >
> > > Not that I plan on trying it, but am curious  about the
> > adverse effect to
> > > car's. Seems pretty toxic to  people.
> > >
> > > --Tom
> > > Ollie wrote:
> >  >>
> > >> Very Interesting,
> > >> Thanks
> >  >> Ollie
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- From:  "Steven
> > Charette"
> > >>
> > >> To:  <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >> Sent: Monday, January 25,  2010 9:22 AM
> > >> Subject: RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in  gas
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Jake,
> > >> Excellent information, thanks!
> > >>
> >  >> SC
> > >>
> > >> -----Original  Message-----
> > >> From: Doug Jacobsma  [mailto:big_jake57@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > >> Sent: Monday, January 25,  2010 9:56 AM
> > >> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > >>  Subject: RE: 273 Rebuild / moth balls in gas
> > >>
> >  >>
> > >>
> > >> The subject of moth balls in gas  has come up on a
> > Harley board I
> > >> frequent,
> >  >> as we are always looking for better gas with those
> > too. Seems  there is a
> > >> chemical ingredient in moth balls that  will
> > enhance octane some, it was
> > >> indeed used by old  time racers, but those who have
> > tried it have found it
> >  >> leaves a bit of residue behind, plus it has some
> > other  unwanted
> > >> characteristics.
> > >> I've had pretty  good luck with Lucas additive and
> > a couple others that
> >  >> list
> > >> jet fuel as the carrier. Says it's good as  an
> > upper lube also.
> > >> Anyway, here's what we came up  with as far as moth
> > balls go:
> > >>
> > >> JUST  SO YA KNOW !
> > >>
> > >> There are two different types  of moth balls - The
> > older type is
> > >> composted  of
> > >> Naphthalene and the newer type is composted of
> >  Paradichlorobenzene.
> > >>
> > >> Both types sublimate  from a solid straight to a a
> > gas- the gas is
> > >> toxic  to
> > >> moths.
> > >>
> > >> The main threat  is breathing the fumes, also may
> > have camphor added as a
> >  >> insect repellent. They also used to clean the
> > pipes on wood  burning
> > >> stoves.
> > >>
> > >> Dangers  are:
> > >>
> > >> Inhaling concentrated fumes
> >  >>
> > >> ingesting or eating them - HIGHLY TOXIC!
> >  >>
> > >> Solvent abuse by kids
> > >>
> >  >> Carcinogen
> > >>
> > >> Forms a bond with soil  that will kill beneficial
> > soil insects.
> > >>
> >  >> It has been proven plausible that adding moth
> > balls to a fuel  tank will
> > >> improve HP.
> > >>
> >  >>
> > >> Listed by the EPA and other Government sources  as
> > a pesticide
> > >>
> > >> 7.5 million lbs. used  as pest control yearly
> > >>
> > >> 369 million lbs. used  by the Dept. of Defense
> > yearly
> > >>
> > >> 1.84  billion lbs. used by US jet market yearly
> > >>
> > >>  Toxic level 2 - for inhaling
> > >>
> > >> Toxic level 3 -  for contact to skin and eyes
> > >>
> > >> Inhalation  causes dizziness - vomiting - nausea -
> > headaches -
> > >>  shortness of
> > >> breath - coughing - burning eyes
> >  >>
> > >> Naphthalene can also kill red blood cells  causing
> > hemolytic anemia and is
> > >> also linked to nasal  cancer.
> > >>
> > >> Moth
> > >> crystals are  made from Paradichlorobenzene (PDB)
> > which is more toxic than
> >  >> Naphthalene. Prolonged exposure on plastics may
> > melt  them.
> > >>
> > >> PDB is a suspected carcinogen causing  cancer.
> > >>
> > >> Repeated inhalation can be fatal -  especially for
> > children,elderly
> > >> people,pets, and  indirectly for fetuses.
> > >>
> > >> TO SUM IT UP  Paradichlorobenzene:
> > >>
> > >> Possible effects: vapor  irritates skin,eyes and
> > respiratory tract,large
> > >> doses  can cause injury to liver,suspected
> > carcinogen.
> >  >>
> > >> Naphthalene
> > >>
> > >>  damages liver,prolonged vapor exposure has led to
> > cataract  formation.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>  Think I'll stick to the stuff in a bottle!
> > >>
> > >>  Jake
> > >> '63 Sport Fury 'vert
> > >>
> >  >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >  >>> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > >>> From:  bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx
> > >>> Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild status and how  much
> > compression we can run on
> > >>> pump gas w
> >  >>> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 03:17:39 -0800
> >  >>>
> > >>> I remember when I was a kid that my dad  used
> > to add moth balls to his
> > >> gasoline for his circle  track racer in the 40's
> > and 50's.
> > >>> I don't know  what the ratio was but he won a
> > lot of races.
> > >>>  Later
> > >>> Bill Harrison
> > >>>
> >  >>>
> > >>
> > >>
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Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies


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