RE: 318 Oil Pan Gasket Install

[Butch Edison <waedison@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

John, I just did replace the oil pan gasket on my 64 Plymouth 383. I had a
real problem with the bolts up under the K frame. The problem for me was
that there was not enough distance between the pan and the K frame to get a
socket on the bolt heads. I tried both 3/8" drive and 1/4" drive sockets,
but both were too long, once married up to the ratchet. Nor could I get a
box end on the bolt heads because of the lip on the oil pan. Maybe an offset
box end would have worked, but I don't have any. Fortunately, my son came by
and offered up a solution that worked for me. He has a set of Kobalt sockets
and ratchet. The socket in these things actually recesses into the ratchet
rather than protruding from the end of the ratchet, which got me at least
another 3/4" clearance. I was able to get the front bolts out using this set
up. Lowes handles this brand of tools if you find yourself in the same
situation. I could not torque the bolts when I put them back in, but I was
using a 1/4 inch ratchet with a 6" handle, so feel pretty good that I did
not over-torque any bolts. 

I did this while I had the center link off the car, as I was rebuilding the
front end. Suggest you do the same. One less thing to get in your way.

Regards,
Butch/ Ferndale, WA

-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Daniel [mailto:dougdaniel50@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 3:31 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: 318 Oil Pan Gasket Install

the oil pan is not that hard too replace the gasket if it is up in the air
may have too raise the motor up a bit  ,,but if you can replace the steering
and suspension you can do  the oil leak 

--- On Fri, 1/29/10, John Pettitt <john.pettitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: John Pettitt <john.pettitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: 318 Oil Pan Gasket Install
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Friday, January 29, 2010, 9:34 PM
> Yep, that was one of the first things
> I checked.  I've pretty much eliminated any leaks from
> head covers oil pressure switches and the like.  Its
> either the rear main seal, or that gasket.  I just
> don't want to bite off more than I can chew with an oil pan
> gasket.  
> 
> But, I Hate Leaks! ! ! 
> 
> --- On Sat, 1/30/10, Dan McCormack <mcwheels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Dan McCormack <mcwheels@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: 318 Oil Pan Gasket Install
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Saturday, January 30, 2010, 2:27 AM
> > 
> > John also check the oil gauge sender on the top back
> of the
> > engine. I've had a number of Mopars that had a leak
> like the
> > one you describe that looked like a rear main seal and
> it
> > turned out to be a leaky sender.
> > 
> > Dan
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Pettitt"
> <john.pettitt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Friday, January 29, 2010 9:09 PM
> > Subject: 318 Oil Pan Gasket Install
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Guys,
> > > 
> > > First off, I am a novice "Learning As I Go"
> mechanic.
> > > 
> > > I have a 1965 Coronet that has had a nagging
> drip,
> > drip, drip oil leak. When the oil leaks, it runs down
> > between the front of the transmission bell housing,
> and the
> > back of the oil pan.  The oil though, is running
> down
> > the bellhousing. I thought it was the Main Rear Seal,
> as I
> > could not find anything else that was leaking.  I
> have
> > currently begun to replace the front-end Steering and
> > suspension.  While I've had it jacked up, it has
> leaked
> > a little more profusely.  I've noticed that the
> gaskets
> > on the ends of the oil pan are cracked and kinda
> broken in
> > places.  You know the ones I'm talking about, the
> > concave plastic looking gaskets that overlap the edge
> of the
> > oil pan.
> > > 
> > > I was curious about 2 things:
> > > 
> > > 1) Could it be that the rear gasket of the oil
> pan is
> > the thing that is leaking, and if that is the case. .
> .
> > > 
> > > 2) How hard is it to replace the oil pan gasket?
> > > 
> > > I have a contact with my local Mopar club that is
> in
> > the business of doing frame-up restorations.  He has
> > helped me out with some stuff on my car, and I know he
> knows
> > his business.  He advised that I should just let it
> > drip, as doing a Rear Main Seal job isn't always sure
> cure
> > for an old engine like this.  But I asked him the
> other
> > day about the oil pan gasket, and he said it was quite
> a
> > difficult job, and he gave me a 1 and 10 shot at
> getting it
> > right the first time.  Since I have all the steering
> > and suspension components off right now, I thought
> this
> > would be a good time to replace the gasket if I was
> going to
> > do it.
> > > 
> > > Is it more than I need to bite off at this time,
> and
> > should I just deal with the drips, or is changing an
> oil pan
> > gasket something that can be accomplished without too
> much
> > trouble.
> > > 
> > > My friend is a great car builder, and knows his
> > stuff.  I just thought I'd get another opinion. 
> >   Thanks for any thoughts. . . .
> > > 
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