Re: 11" x 2" Brakes? TAKE 2!

[Mike and Linda <miclinmopar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Dave,
Where are you located??
Im finishing up restoring  the drums/backing plates/shoes and hardware for 
an 11x2.5" set up.
Everything complete....repainted and ready to install.   I'm not sure of 
what the stuff is worth.  Ihave a lot of hours cleaning and painting them. 
I might be willing to sell them.
Mike


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave64" <lt7dave@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 9:51 PM
Subject: Re: 11" x 2" Brakes? TAKE 2!


Thanks - I'm now looking for a complete brake setup to use instead of what I 
have.  By the way, I now see that the drums aren't a match either!  One is 
11 x 3, and the other measures out to 11 x 2 3/8 (would that be considered 2 
1/2, or is this yet another different size?).  I took it for granted that 
the brakes were 11 x 2 1/2 because I saw what was left of the car the 
rearend came out of.  It looked like a '68 GTX (which it was said to be), 
but if it was, I now know that some things had clearly been swapped out over 
the years.

Thanks for all of the help, guys.  Up until a year ago, it had been 25 years 
since I worked on these old Mopars, so sometimes I need help remembering 
what's what.  Still having fun, though!

Dave

--- On Thu, 5/27/10, Mike and Linda <miclinmopar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Mike and Linda <miclinmopar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: 11" x 2" Brakes?  TAKE 2!
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 2:58 PM
>
> The shoe, drum and backing plate are all sized as a
> set. Don't mix and match here. The backing plate
> centers the web of the shoe with the center of the WC
> piston. The back edge of the shoe rides on the six
> "pads" of the backing plate, and the front edge of the shoe
> is near the inside edge of the drums brake surface.
> The offset of the drum (hub face to back edge) is also a
> consideration. With a drum that is too deep (for 2.75
> width), it won't sit of the hub flange since it will hit the
> backing plate first. Basically, its all a matched
> set.
>
> The WC should be the same bore for all there.
> Increase braking will come from more friction material
> contact area rather than more pressure from the WC.
> The servo (self wedging) motion of the shoes will also
> dramtically increase braking force.
>
> I use 10x2.5s on the A bodies rear when I do a disk upgrade
> with a 8.25 or 8.75 rear. With the additional weight
> of the B bodies, the 11" rear is a good bet.
>
> I'm just fiinishing up a set of 11x2.5 shoes, backing
> plates and drums. Sandblasting / priming / painting the
> parts. The "inside" hardware is also getting the resto
> treatment..
>
> Mike
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave64" <lt7dave@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 11:02 PM
> Subject: Re: 11" x 2" Brakes? TAKE 2!
>
>
> So do I want to get different backing plates to stick with
> 2.5" shoes, or take the easy way out and go with the 2"
> shoes? The 11x2 shoes are still an upgrade over my
> stock 10", and I'm sort of in a hurry to get the thing
> rolling again. Also, are all of the 11" drums the
> same? The 2" aren't supposed to have narrower drums,
> are they? I would think it wouldn't matter if the
> drums are wider anyway - right?
>
> Thanks for the help guys!
>
> Dave
>
> --- On Wed, 5/26/10, Mike and Linda <miclinmopar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
> > From: Mike and Linda <miclinmopar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: 11" x 2" Brakes? TAKE 2!
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 6:50 PM
> >
> > I just did a quick Rock auto search. handy website,
> > really.
> >
> > Under the 1965 Monaco; it came with 11x2 rear drum
> brakes
> > standard: Raybestos 334PG. HD and Wagons got 11x2.5",
> > 335PG out back.
> >
> > More specifically:
> >
> > 337PG are the 11x2.75 standard front drum brakes used
> with
> > 334PG 11x2 rear.
> > 336PG are the 11x3.00 HD front brakes used with the
> 11x2.5"
> > rears.
> >
> > Mike
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave64" <lt7dave@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 6:14 PM
> > Subject: 11" x 2" Brakes?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > First, sorry this a little off topic. I now have
> > the "new" rearend and SS springs transplanted into my
> '64
> > Belvedere. All that's left are the brakes. All
> > was moving along swimingly until I found that the new
> shoes
> > I have are 11" x 2 1/2" (as I thought they should be),
> but
> > the shoes that came off this new rearend are 11" x 2"
> > Huh? The rearend is supposed to be off a '68 GTX, but
> > I don't think 11"x2" are correct for that car. The
> > shoes I have won't work because they don't line up
> with the
> > pivot pin at the top of backing plate or with the
> wheel
> > cylinder (the shoes are too tall). Otherwise they're
> > dead ringers for what was on there. The wheel
> > cylinders are new (for a '68 GTX), and they look
> exactly
> > like what was on there and fit fine. It looks like I
> > either have to get different backing plates or figure
> out
> > what shoes I need to work with the ones I have. Anyone
> have
> > any ideas on what cars came with 11"x2" brakes?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest
> to
> > only one person -- directly to that person.
> > I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as
> well
> > as other personal messages only to the intended
> recipient,
> > not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice
> will
> > protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail
> and
> > fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks!
> > >
> > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion
> Guidelines:
> > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > ----
> > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to
> only one
> > person -- directly to that person. I.e., send
> > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as
> other
> > personal messages only to the intended recipient, not
> to the
> > Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect
> your
> > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune
> the
> > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks!
> >
> > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ----
> Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one
> person -- directly to that person. I.e., send
> parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other
> personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the
> Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your
> privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the
> content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks!
>
> 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and
> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.


----
Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic.  Thanks!

1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines:
http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.