Hmmm...So maybe mine in my '64 aren't installed properly? Or is this a '65 specific thing? That SpongeBob is one whacky dude - LOL. --- On Wed, 10/20/10, William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: factory options > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 2:22 PM > The seat belt picture is for all of > the cars. > I can scan and send the picture to your e-mail. > It will be a few hours as my Grandson is exercising his > option to play Spongebob Square Pants games on the > computer.... > When Grandma gets home in about 2 hours I will get the > computer back.. > Later > Bill > > --- On Wed, 10/20/10, Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> > wrote: > > > From: Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> > > Subject: Re: factory options > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Wednesday, October 20, 2010, 6:37 AM > > That sounds rational from an > > engineering viewpoint. My concern would be the > > belts getting pinched when the seat is bent over to > allow > > access to the back > > seat in a 2 door. Was the photo of a four door? > > > > Akron Don Gallimore > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > From: William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx> > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 11:37:28 PM > > > Subject: Re: factory options > > > > > > Don > > > While looking at my owners manual I noticed that > the > > two belts in the middle of > > >the front seat X. The one on the passenger side of > the > > drive shaft tunnel > > >crosses over to the drivers lap and the one on > the > > drivers side of the tunnel > > >crosses over to the passenger lap. > > > I have to change mine. I had mine out to install > new > > floor pans and > > >re-installed them wrong. > > > Later > > > Bill > > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/18/10, Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Donald Gallimore <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> > > > > Subject: Re: factory options > > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, 10:23 AM > > > > > > > > Good enough for me. I'll go withthe front > seaat > > belts > > > > being factory installed > > > > for the entire model year. > > > > > > > > > > > > Akron Don Gallimore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > > > > From: William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx> > > > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Sent: Mon, October 18, 2010 9:55:20 AM > > > > > Subject: Re: factory options > > > > > > > > > > Bill from Toronto. You aren't quite > right > > about seat > > > > belts. > > > > > I am looking at my owners manual for > my > > 65 > > > > Coronet and to Quote verbatim. > > > > > Seat Belts. Your new car is equipped > with > > front > > > > seat belts. It is strongly > > > > >recommended that you and your > passenger > > snap > > > > these in place whenever you drive. > > > > >Exact locations for drilling holes > for > > installing > > > > rear seat belts are marked on > > > > >the rear floor. > > > > > So to answer your question...On 65 > Coronets; > > front > > > > seat belts were standard > > > > >and rear seat belts were optional. > Also, > > retractors > > > > were a dealer option, not a > > > > >factory option. > > > > > My owners manual also covers the > Station > > wagon. > > > > > I don't know if this was the same for > the > > Polara, 500, > > > > or 440 models. > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > Later > > > > > Bill Harrison > > > > > 65 Coronet 2 dr post. > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 10/18/10, roofer90203@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > <roofer90203@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > From: roofer90203@xxxxxxxxxxx > > > > <roofer90203@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > Subject: Re: factory options > > > > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > Date: Monday, October 18, 2010, > 6:12 > > AM > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess that what I am really > going > > to need > > > > is a look at an > > > > > > original window sticker from any > '65 > > Mopar. > > > > That should give > > > > > > me a starting point. Anybody have > one > > that > > > > they could scan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > >From: Donald Gallimore > <dongallimore@xxxxxxx> > > > > > > >Sent: Oct 17, 2010 8:03 PM > > > > > > >To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >Subject: Re: factory > options > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Okay, settle another > question - > > were > > > > seat belts > > > > > > optional in the '65 B-Bodies > > > > > > >until the start of the > calendar > > > > year? (like January > > > > > > 1, 1965) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Akron Don Gallimore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ---- > > > > > > >> From: Gary H. <spigot2039@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > > > >> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > >> Sent: Sun, October 17, > 2010 > > > > 5:50:28 PM > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: factory > > options > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Below is what Bill > wrote for > > those > > > > who could not > > > > > > view it: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> No such thing as "heater > > delete" prior > > > > to 1965, > > > > > > while "radio delete" did not > > > > > > >> appear before the > 1980's. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Prior to 1965 heaters > were > > optional, > > > > thus heaters > > > > > > appear in salesman's order > > > > > > >> book,. Back then if > you > > did > > > > not want a heater, > > > > > > you did not order a heater. > > > > > > >> "Heater delete" did > not > > appear > > > > until heaters were > > > > > > standard equipment, at > > > > > > >> which time you ticked the > "No > > heater" > > > > box on the > > > > > > order form and got a car > > > > > > >> with no heater. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Remember, you cannot > delete > > something > > > > that is not > > > > > > there. The basic car back > > > > > > >> then did not have a > heater, > > thus > > > > you could not get > > > > > > "heater delete". There > > > > > > >> was no heater, and as > a > > result the > > > > heater could > > > > > > not be deleted. But in 1965 > > > > > > >> heaters were standard, > thus > > if you > > > > ordered your > > > > > > car with sales code 406, you > > > > > > >> got "heater delete". > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Same with radios. > Back in > > > > the 1950's and 1960's > > > > > > radios were optional. If > > > > > > >> you ordered a car with > no > > options, you > > > > got a car > > > > > > with blackwall tires, > > > > > > >> hubcaps, no heater, no > > radio, and > > > > if automatic > > > > > > transmission was optional, > > > > > > >> you got a manual > > transmission, > > > > clutch and all. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> When radios became > standard > > in the > > > > 1980's it > > > > > > became possible to order a > > > > > > >> "radio delete" car. You > had > > the > > > > standard radio > > > > > > deleted from the build > > > > > > >> specs. But, again, if > the > > basic > > > > car came with no > > > > > > radio, you could get the > > > > > > >> radio option, but not > a > > radio > > > > delete. In 1980 if > > > > > > you ordered a car that had > > > > > > >> a radio as standard > > equipment, if > > > > you ticked box > > > > > > R08, you ordered a car with > > > > > > >> radio delete. But in > 1965 > > there > > > > was no radio > > > > > > delete code as radios were > > > > > > >> optional, even on > > Imperials. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> And the same goes for > such > > items > > > > as driver s > > > > > > outside mirror and seat > > > > > > >> belts which were made > > standard > > > > equipment years > > > > > > before the American > > > > > > >> government had the > power to > > > > dictate safety > > > > > > standards. During the period > > > > > > >> prior to the safety > standards > > such could > > > > be > > > > > > deleted - code 460 was front > > > > > > >> belts deleted in 1965. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Bill > > > > > > >> Toronto, ON > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -----Original > Message----- > > > > > > >> >From: Bill Watson > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ---- > > > > > > >> Please address private > mail > > -- > > > > mail of interest to > > > > > > only one person -- directly > > > > > > >>to that person. I.e., > send > > > > parts/car transactions > > > > > > and negotiations as well as > > > > > > >>other personal messages > only to > > the > > > > intended > > > > > > recipient, not to the Clubhouse > > > > > > > >>public address. This > practice > > will > > > > protect your > > > > > > privacy, reduce the total volume > > > > > > >>of mail and fine tune > the > > content > > > > signal to Mopar > > > > > > topic. Thanks! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> 1962 to 1965 Mopar > Clubhouse > > Discussion > > > > > > Guidelines: > > > > > > >> http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > > > > > > > > > > > >>http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > > > Please address private mail -- > mail of > > > > interest to only one > > > > > > person -- directly to that > person. > > I.e., > > > > send > > > > > > parts/car transactions and > > negotiations as > > > > well as other > > > > > > personal messages only to the > > intended > > > > recipient, not to the > > > > > > Clubhouse public address. This > > practice > > > > will protect your > > > > > > privacy, reduce the total volume > of > > mail > > > > and fine tune the > > > > > > content signal to Mopar > > > > topic. Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse > > Discussion > > > > Guidelines: > > > > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > > > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > > > Please address private mail -- mail of > interest > > to only one > > > > person -- directly to that person. I.e., > send > > > > parts/car transactions and negotiations as > well > > as other > > > > personal messages only to the intended > recipient, > > not to the > > > > Clubhouse public address. This practice > will > > protect your > > > > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and > fine > > tune the > > > > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > > > > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion > > Guidelines: > > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >