Yes that was odd how they came in the later "fuselage style" B-bodies. I am not quite sure what year that started, I am going to guess '72, not sure the 71 chargers and roadrunners had the 340 option yet but in 72 and 73 you see them, although its kind of rare. I have only seen one in real life, a guy here with a charger with 340 AND factory 4 speed. My very first motor I rebuilt was a 340 for my 71 cuda, way back in 1983. I bought the engine for 100 bucks from a guy that had it laying in his front yard. neal zimmerman, eugene oregon ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.