Hi Tom, I'm not familiar with brakes on the Dart, I barely have a minimal knowledge of my Chrysler's brakes ;( The rear drums on my Chrysler have to go on a tapered axle, the drums I bought don't have the hubs pre-fitted to the center hole, so they must come from the old drums. I don't need to save the old drums, we already tried using them and the brakes locked up, to the point of getting smoking hot... the old drums are shot. I do need to tell my mechanic how to get the hubs off the old drums and how to attach the hubs to the new drums. I'll fill in my mechanic about the swedge cutting tool used to remove the hubs, and see if he's familiar with it. I'm still not clear on how the hubs are then attached to the new drums. the hubs just rest against the drums??? Tom Watters wrote: > > If it's like the front hubs on my dart, originally the drums were > swedged to the hub on the knurls at the end of the lug studs. There is > a swedge cutting tool that fits around the lug stud that can be used to > cut the swedged kunrls and the drum (Can Slightly enlarge the hole). > Then hub can be pressed out of the drum, if cutting the swedging didnt > release it. > > Done right, the hub and the drum survive. > > Done wrong, holes can be enlarged in the hub such that they have to get > oversized knurl studs to be able to fit. Or drum can end up bent at the > > hub and be worthless. > > On the new drum's, once your lugnuts are on and torqued down, the wheel > holds the drum from moving. > > --Tom > > On 4/13/2011 6:49 AM, 62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > I searched the Internet, and found a post removing/install the hun on > > drums, saying "grind off or drill through the rivets" but the discussion > > on installing on the new drums says that rivets aren't needed... how > > does the hub stay in place on the new drums? > > Gary H. wrote: > >> > >> Kantor's version is probably just the drum. As you say, the picture > >> indicates so as well. > >> > >> I'll continue to look through the archive files for the procedure if you > >> > >> get stuck. > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Gary H. > >> > >> > >> 62pluckedchicken wrote: > >>> I'll give him a call, and see what he says about removing the hubs.. I > >>> wonder if the one from Kantor don't have the hubs either. The part > >>> picture doesn't show th hub > > > > ---- > > Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- > > directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and > > negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended > > recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will > > protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the > > content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! > > > > 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html. > > > > > -- > -- 65 Dart GT Convertible 4bbl 4spd > -- North Las Vegas, NV > ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! 1962 to 1965 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html and http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/general_disclaimer.html.