Re: Random Bad Thoughts

Your piont is taken about the wieght of the new cars. Still 100 mpg is not that hard to achieve with our technolgy. We go to the moon and back on one tank. I saw a carb once that got 35-40 mpg on a 440, over 50 on a 318. One big barrel, a couple of large diaphams. He was supposed to destroy them as per Holley carbs. He found this one hidden away years later. Holley paid 10 million for the rights etc. and destroyed all he had built. He never would let me use it or really study it because he was scared of holley.

From: Bill Watson <chrycoman@xxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:28 AM
Subject: Re: Random Bad Thoughts

That's 41 mpg ADVERTISED (although I think it was closer to 35). In
real life, as with everything you see on television, things were are
quite as advertised.

The K-cars were good on gas due to weight. Or lack thereof. A 1981 K
car weighed around 2,400 lbs. A 2002 Stratus, a successor to the K
car, weighed 3,100 lbs. Today's Avenger starts at 3,300 lbs. As usual
with Detroit, things start out small and then grow in length, width
and weight. And as the late, great Raymond Loewy used to say, weight
is the enemy.

Using vegetables for fuel is good. May bring about lower fuel prices,
initially, but your dinner is going to cost more. Every cob of corn
processed for fuel is one less to eat. Agricultural land is not
infinite and thus you can grow only so much. As with everything in a
free market, higher demand brings higher prices. So, actually, you
will be paying more for corn to eat, and, eventually, more for corn to
burn in your car.

Cell phones were bricks with antennae back in 1981. iPods were
introduced in 2001. Back in 1981 the big thing was 8 tracks. And PC
computers, with two 5½" drives, no hard drive, 64k ram and a
monochrome monitor, set you back a couple of thousand 1981 dollars. Of
course, you could buy a Commodore 64 for less.

Bill
Vancouver, BC

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 11:37 PM, Stan Kafouse <skafouse@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Heres something to think about.... In 81 or so if I remember correct, the
> new Kcar got 41 mpg advertised. Carburated, no computer. Why do new cars
> with FI and computers only got 40 mpg. In 30 years how far have we come?
> How big was a computer 30 yrs ago? I had a cell phone and ipod then didnt
> you? . You cant convince me cars cant get 100 mpg,the govt and that the oil
> cos. are in cahoots to repress this technology. My 250 runs on veggie oil.
> No taxes to a govt that cant handle the money it has now, but still wants
> more. No one seems to bring this up when discussing tax increases. Plus
> veggie oil is enviromentally friendly. Every diesel in the USA could run
> this for fuel. Just my piont of view.
>
> From: rll <rlipinski3@xxxxxxx>
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Random Bad Thoughts
>
> Good points...we need alt fuel cars...because we are running out of oil....
>
> Proven lie..so....
>
> we need alt fuel cars because CO2 is a deadly pollutant and is heating the
> planet...
>
> CO2 is an earth life gas and bull crap on the heating...algore wants money
>
> you have alt fuel vehicles because the nanny state says that is what's
> needed....
>
> It is pure B.S. unless it is allowed to happen.....
>
> Our 65 sat is our scare ourselves silly car because 67 and later are
> emissions tested in AZ.
>
> the EPA is allowed to operate by executive orders and not law.....maybe time
> to get the
> bastages that are targeting our cars and guns out of there.......
>
> rob/ferts/phx
> 65 sat
>
>
>
>
> On 8/22/11 7:00 AM, Dodger7998@xxxxxxx wrote:
>
>     It is always a cool/nice/great thought when we hear how someone plans of
> building/restoring or passing on their 63 Fury, or whatever car with/to
> their kids/grandkids.   The bad thought is that our cars are 46+ years old,
> and I have a feeling that the future of the fossil fueled vehicles will come
> to an end before our cars see another 40 years,   The thought of a 65 AWB
> car with a trunk full of alkaline batteries with a multi-winding electric
> motor topped off with a 6-pak of relays is just not an appealing thought to
> me.,,,,
>      I am 66 years old, and will hopefully not live long enough to see it
> but do see the banning of a fossil fueled vehicle even being owned with out
> having a special collectors permit, and even then they will not be allowed
> to be started or driven (if you can find the fuel) because of air
> pollution.   I am far from an environmentalist, nor do I know any, but have
> a feeling that it would be wise for all of us to start getting involved,
> just so we can get some input into what they will eventually be doing to
> wipe out our hobbies and loves,,,,,
>
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