Re: Paint Time

[Bill Watson <chrycoman@xxxxxxxxx>]

Actually, Flame Red on 1964 models was NN while Flame Red No 2 was
NN-P.  Flame Red No 2 was used again in 1965 and was a Canada-only
colour.  No American equivalent,

Code PP is for Red Maple Metallic, which was also used on American
Plymouth and Dodge models with code T under the name of Signet Royal
Red Metallic.  Paint company codes -

CIL - 2353-2288
DuPont Canada - DUM-990-H
Ditzler-CPI - 71355
DuPont USA - 181-96964-H
Rinshed-Mason - 264CC51R

Dodge 880, Chrysler and Imperial also used a code T in the U.S., but
that is a different colour again.  It is also a dark red that Chrysler
and Imperial called Roman Red Metallic.

Code PP is a rich, deep red.  Would look great on your Windsor convertible.

.
Bill
Toronto, ON



On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Jay <shelby_nut@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Thanks for the info...you are a world of info on these Canadian cars!
>
> Any of course you are correct...I checked the paint code, it's PP.  Is that
> the Flame Red (1 or 2) you mentioned?
>
> I scrapped off the top of the rad support the thin generic red paint the car
> is currently painted (looked like crap anyhow), and below was the original
> paint, its a deep red, almost a burgendy or wine color.
>
> It's a nice color, the car must have looked really sweet when it was new!
> Looking forward to putting it back that way.
>
> Jay
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Bill Watson <chrycoman@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2012 10:37:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Paint Time
>
> PPG 71393 Roman Red, code T,  was used on Ameican 1964 Chryslers, but
> not Canadian.  The Canadian red was Flame Red and was replaced by
> Flame Red No 2 in mid-year.  Flame Red No 2 was used by Chrysler
> Canada in 1965 as well.
>
> What is the paint code on the body tag?
>
> Also, Chrysler of Canada did not use lacquer paint after WW II, only
> enamel, which by the 1960's was acrylic enamel.
> .
> The site that you used to get Carmine Red should have Roman Red.  They
> have Ditzler paint chips going back to 1929.
>
> Bill
> Toronto, ON
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Jay <shelby_nut@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> Don't know much about paint so bear with me....
>>
>> So Big Red is off to my body guy in a few weeks, time for some fresh bondo
>> (it's a Canadian car, eh) and a fresh coat of paint!
>>
>> It's a 1964 Chrysler Windsor Convertible, and was original PPG 71393 Roman
>> Red. The previous owner painted it Hot Rod Red, I'd like to go back to the
>> original color.
>>
>> Anyone know who reproduces this paint? (In Canada would be even better!)
>>
>> Also as far as I can tell, this was originally Acrylic Enamel paint. Would
>> that be the same stuff to get?
>>
>> Closest I've found is Carmine Red
>>
>> http://www.tcpglobal.com/restorationshop/itemdetail.aspx?itemno=RSP+AE1708-KIT-M but
>> if I could find a place that can reproduce the original that would be the
>> way to go.
>>
>> With the PPG code could any body shop get the blend and just "mix up" a
>> gallon?
>>
>> It's a weekend cruiser, not doing a concourse restoration or anything but
>> would like it to look like factory paint.
>>
>> Any insight would be appreciated!
>>
>> Jay
>>
>

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