Also, while you're looking, let me know if you find an extra handle
and/or an extra torque shaft; same goes for the rest of you. Thanks!
Dave Casey
On 7/18/2013 10:52 PM, Dave Casey
wrote:
Dug a little more. Don't know where I found these pictures
originally (probably saved from eBay auctions), but I have the
narrower handle marked as C body and would therefore assume the
wider one is the B-body part.
Dave Casey
On 7/18/2013 10:42 PM, Dave Casey
wrote:
I converted in 2004, so it's been nine. I'm happy to oblige as a
consultant, though I'm sure a lot of my parts are incorrect
(especially the ones I had to make).
Before you do the swap, you might benefit from my biggest lesson
learned: my car had factory power brakes, but the 4-spd pedals
were for manual brakes and I didn't realize this until I had
everything apart. I eventually used a booster from Master Power
to go back to power brakes, but drove it with manual for a good
while.
I've never dug in the parts manual either, so please let me know
what you find. I can tell you from other pictures of that eBay
car that it was originally blue and had been repainted black so
there's no guarantee that handle was original either.
The console automatic shifter was certainly comfortable to drive
and in perfect reach. I was a bit sad to be rid of it - it
operated so smoothly.
Dave Casey
Hey Dave! It's probably been 10 years since I
chatted with you on here (I took an extended leave). I
remember you doing the 4 speed conversion on your Polara.
I guess I should mention that I wouldn't bet the
farm on my pics being 100% accurate. The first
picture is from a '65 Monaco that traded hands a few times
online in the last 10 years. It is supposed to be the only
documented '65 Monaco w/ a 426 and a 4 speed. Maybe I put
too much faith in that claim by assuming its shifter is
correct. I'll dig out the 1965 parts book and try to get
to the bottom of this (should have done that in the first
place).
It certainly doesn't seem that they had ergonomics in
mind with the shifter shape or location.... but I just
gotta have one!!!
I'm going to bother you for some detail pictures of the
various 4 speed assemblies on your car when I get closer.
Thanks,
Dan Bendixon
1965 Dodge Monaco
From: "Dave Casey" <dcasey@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 9:12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Wanted: '65 C-body 4 spd. console
shifter
I'm inclined to disagree with those pictures. The first
one looks like the non-console version made to fit, the
second looks correct. Here's a picture from a '65 Polara
426/4spd project car that was on eBay 14 years ago today.
My brother and I each sourced used handles for our
conversions. He found his first and did his '65 Belvedere
and ended up having to modify the handle (either the
shifter bracket was wrong or he actually had a C-body
handle).
I did my '65 Polara years later and had to modify as well
(either I have the wrong shift bracket, or I actually had
a B-body handle). The placement in mine is still less than
ideal (have to sit up straight to reach it).
Dave Casey
Hi Mark,
This is the best view I can
find online of the correct C-body piece:
The next picture shows a
B-body shifter (although installed in a C-body
here):
Thanks,
Dan
From: chymar01@xxxxxxxxxxx
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:48:56 AM
Subject: Re: Wanted: '65 C-body 4 spd. console
shifter
I have a couple console shifters, but no idea
what they fit. What does it look like?
Mark
From: "mopardan65" <dbendixon@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 2:08:46 AM
Subject: Wanted: '65 C-body 4 spd.
console shifter
Hi everyone,
I've been planning to convert/ clone my '65
Monaco to a 4 speed car for years and have most
of the hard parts collected... even the
extremely rare torque shaft (z-bar).
What I lack is the uniquely curved Hurst
lever for use with a floor console, which was a
unique part for C-bodies. I know a B-body Hurst
shifter will work if it has to. The originals
are made of a material that many of us are quite
familiar with... "UNobtanium", which is
something like the 114th element or so :)
Not enough demand for Hurst to re-pop them I
guess. Anyone got one laying around in their
stockpile?
Dan Bendixon
1965 Dodge Monaco
1988 Dodge Dakota
1973 Dodge Dart Sport
2004 Chrysler 300m Sp.Ed.
"I find the thing that runs best in a Chevy
is usually its owner's mouth"
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