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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | If anyone is interested , there is a good view, showing what Aluminized exhaust pipes look like, on Epay #
330060109892.
Please note that Aluminized pipes are NOT particularly "bright-shiney", but DO resemble brand-new steel, with certain 'blems' and, variations- in- finish.
The "surface" is VERY durable, & can be 'restored', with a laquer thinner wipe-down &/or steel-wooling.
Aluminized pipes contrast VERY nicely with black undercoating.
Also, I believe that the deeper-resonance, of aluminized pipes may be due to their thicker wall thickness, and/or
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Location: Sodus,New York | Have had them on my 55 for 8yrs..Still look and sound great. Had my single pipe removed and they custom bent the duals with glasspacks for 300.00. Scares Camaros at the stoplight. Terry |
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Location: Belgium, 40 miles south of Brussels | I do hesitate between aluminized pipes and stainless steel ones for my '58 Plymouth (I need duals). As I live in France, the cost of shipping those pipes (aluminized or stainless) is a huge part of the price. In fact the shipping costs more than the aluminized ones, so why not go all the way to stainless ?
Anyway, do you suggest a particular vendor for exhaust pipes ?
I've looked Kepich and Classis Exhaust, but is there someone else out ther worth watching ? |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | Hi, Vincent! ANY good/decent exhaust-pipe-shop can custom-make-up aluminized (or stainless, I'm sure) pipes, for your ride, using (what's-left-of) your pipes, or the car, itself, as a "pattern".
You just need to decide what diameter you want to install (I've got 2 1/4" o.d. pipes) , and what mufflers you want to hook-up, to the pipes!!!
Aluminized pipes ARE bullet-proof, look OK (like OEM steel; NOT artificially-"pretty", like stainless pipes), and "sound" deeper/more muscular (probably due to their thicker wall construction) and are a lot CHEAPER than stainless pipes. |
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Location: SWITZERLAND | First I used straight on stainless tubes I polished. Later I found very nice stainless pipes with folded outlets and could simply mount them over the former tubes. One piece for only USD 20. - SERGE -
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Location: Ballwin, Missouri | Vincent,
If aluminized exhaust pipe isn't available over there in France,
would it be any cheaper to have straight bulk pipe shipped to
you and then have it bent by an exhaust shop near you?? At
the very least, I would think that the packaging would be alot
simpler and more compact which should cut a little off the cost.
Just a thought.
Good Luck |
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Location: SWITZERLAND | What about corrosion with Aluminium? I remember once my corroded aluminium wheels from the salt in winter. Stainless Steel should be much better at this point. It can also be high-gloss finished. - SERGE - |
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| Hi Vincent,
Maybe you want to come over to the Netherlands for a day, and have the aluminized pipes bent here , there are about 5 places to choose from.It's of course not a hundred bucks like in the US, but always cheaper than shipping...
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | The aluminized pipes, that I had installed, on my car have TOUGH corrosion-resistant composition.
Before installing them (regarding-which, they do NOT look "bright-shiney", but, rather like semi-shiney, mottled-
finish, OEM-"steel" appearance!) I tried filing-down a sample's finish, to see if the "aluminized" finish would wear-off,
or to corrode, where I had filed/abraded the surface.
First: the finish is VERY hard, & didn't "accept" filing-effort; almost scratch-proof.
Second: I submerged the small sample-piece, in salty-water, to see if it would corrode, on its cut-ends, or on
its "filed" abraisions.
After a week, I gave-up, & acknowled that, at least for "MY" pipes they AIN'T gonna corrode!!!!!!
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Location: SWITZERLAND | This is good news, Neil. The aluminium must be another "mixed" then the one beeing used for wheels. When anodized (elox) then it is also corrosion-resistant, as long the surface is not damaged. We agree: best is when the pipes doesn't rust, and I personally appreciate a nice Outlet, because it is a part of the cars Outfit. - SERGE - |
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Location: Blythewood, SC | Stainless!! You can do it yourself at home for under a grand. I did! Get the Stainless Works street rod builder's kit from Jeg's and a set of Magnaflow mufflers.
http://bacooper.myphotoalbum.com/view_photo.php?set_albumName=album...
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | well, I gotta admit, if I had a L.R.E., or Warlock, truck, I'd seriously consider installing stainless steel pipes, as their visible-appearance
is very-much a "part" of its attraction!
Brian, did your shop create any sort of "weep-hole" system, om the bottom of the vertical-pipes?
Also, I wonder whether stainless steel exhaust pipe fabrication necesarilly involves a cutting/welding-together of various sections
of tubing, as compared to the mere-bending of Aluminized pipe, which is all that is required, to create a length of exhaust pipe?
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Location: Blythewood, SC | No, I didn't make any weep holes in the system. That could be why it spits the first few minutes when it's cold outside! |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | Hey, Brian! if I had a LRE, I'd install stainless pipes in a heartbeat!
Can't beat the appearance of stainless, and, those pipes ARE kind-of exposed, ot-there, huh?
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Location: Blythewood, SC | I'm going with stainless on everything from now on. It only costs more one time, and it lasts forever. I did all the work and welding at home, and it was FUN! |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, aluminized lasts forever, too, and looks like OEM steel (not all-pretty, like that stainless stuff!)
Why couldn't someone cut/bend/install aluminized pipe, at home, too?
I had mine be fabricated by a pro-shop, in my town, using my steel pipes, as templates; cost was around $350.00, IIRC.
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Location: Blythewood, SC | Neil asked me to post these two photos:
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | Thanx, Brian!
Just a couple 'grab' shots, from last nite (with about 4k miles of Tulsarama-trip/rain-washage dirt, on the undercarriage.)
These pipes are 2 1/4" o.d. , and are completely impervious to corrosion; you clean them with laquer thinner & steel wool
and wipe them off.
They are NOT as shiney/pretty as stainless steel, but, neither is OEM steel exhaust pipes, which is what aluminized piping
resembles.
You pays your money, and you takes your choice!
Thanx, again, Brian!
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil!
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Location: bishop, ca | Also, when I had my muff-shop install these pipes, I wanted to have them re-use my correct "C"-section rear clamps, and the
rear-of-muffler "Clam-Shell" section tail pipe hangers.
As the rear clamps were readily accessible, I removed them, and used a small sample-section of the 2 1/4" pipe, to open-up the OEM 2-inch "C" clamps, so that they would fit around the new/larger pipe.
What my shop FAILED to do, was to 'adapt' (somehow) the "Clam-Shell" clamps onto the new/larger pipe; they just quickly & easily
installed those "U" clamps, behind the mufflers, which look like Hell, but, I've never got around to trying to adapt/fit the Clam-Shell
clamps, to the aluminized pipes.
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| Looks like I can pick up an dual exhaust local from these guys...
http://www.classicexhaustinc.com/
i need to figure out which mufflers to use on a hemi though
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Location: New Jersey | In 1975 I put a complete dual exhaust system on my '56 Dodge hemi by Midas muffler.
They attached two of their 'turbo' mufflers at the time to fit the X-frame, which was the
main consideration (besides price---I couldn't afford beans) to fit the undercarriage.
They sounded terrific then, and I got a compliment just last week about the fabulous
hemi 'clack' emanating from the back end. Go figure!. |
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| My exhaust is ready from Classic... was done last Thursday so I will do a review. Lets see how it fits |
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Location: So. Cal | What original system did you buy it for, a '57 D501? What size pipes did they make? |
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Location: Ramona, CA | I just put this system from Waldron's on my '60 New Yorker Town & Country. Need to tweak the fit a bit and I'll probably end up taking it to an exhaust shop for work. Didn't have much to work with as all the mufflers and center pipes were missing and the car doesn't run yet.
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