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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | Neil's widow is ready to part from Horrie now. I am not (yet) going to spend a lot of words here, most of you know exactly what’s it about. Horrie currently has 89,540 miles on the odometer. The horn button is loose and the driver’s door handle sticks, nothing you cannot fix. Will be sold as-is, preferably local pickup or I could assist with shipping. Send me your best offer through PM. Thanks!
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Location: Kennewick Wa | That reminds sooo much of my '57 I had from '78- 92. Kick me in the behind for selling it...Those were the days, 49,000 miles, bought it for $1,200. Drove it 118,000 trouble free miles. Sold it for $6,500 Me big stupid... |
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Location: Ontario, Canada | D500Jim - 2018-12-23 3:46 PM
Neil's widow is ready to part from Horrie now. I am not (yet) going to spend a lot of words here, most of you know exactly what’s it about. Horrie currently has 89,540 miles on the odometer. The horn button is loose and the driver’s door handle sticks, nothing you cannot fix. Will be sold as-is, preferably local pickup or I could assist with shipping. Send me your best offer through PM. Thanks!
Good for you, Jim, to help Norma sell the car.
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Location: Lower Mainland BC | D500Jim - 2018-12-23 4:09 PM
Thanks! I was wondering what was going wrong but couldn't figure out.
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Location: NY & VT | Horrie was Neil's pride and joy for decades, and as we all know there was probably no-one who knew more about '57 Dodges. It'd be great if someone here, especially someone Neil knew, would become the next steward of this very special car. I only spoke with him a few times but he was truly a nice guy with a wry sense of humor, and was always willing to help anyone with anything auto related if he could. RIP Neil. |
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Location: northern germany | I know this is how life goes, but this is heart breaking.
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Location: Northen Virginia | this car is a testimony to Neil knowledge of this particular model. It is probably no other in this condition. |
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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | Hi Mike, D500Neil posted every little detail about his pride and joy here, on the forwardlook website. I will list details later, just wanted to do this before Christmas. Mike McCandless - 2018-12-24 4:14 PM Is there a thread with details on the car? |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Neils car would be a fantastic car for a true Dodge enthusiast. It is as correct as possible. He truely loved that car. Every time that I check old threads and find his post there's a sting in my heart and a smile on my face. He had a special humor and was always eager to help. He will be remembered forever by a lot of us. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | wizard - 2018-12-26 2:36 AM Neils car would be a fantastic car for a true Dodge enthusiast. It is as correct as possible. He truely loved that car. Every time that I check old threads and find his post there's a sting in my heart and a smile on my face. He had a special humor and was always eager to help. He will be remembered forever by a lot of us. =================================
Let's respect Neil's legacy and keep it accurate. If by "correct", you mean OEM correct, Neil did much modification to upgrade his brakes from correct 1957 Dodge brakes. He made no bones about his work and how he developed the "science" behind his system and freely shared his intel. He also was a big proponent to using non-stock distributors and tweaking them for max performance. I am still left feeling exasperated over Neil being so suddenly gone. He was a pillar of research and knowledge and sadly took much of that with him when he departed. I laugh, when I think of him sparring with the motorheads and rodders, and simultaneously frustrated by the ensuing pissing matches they'd always boil down to. He was an odd mix of purist knowledge and practical, restrained use of mods to make his car go better or safer. The modders only saw him as a whining purist, ignoring his own painstaking work to perfect mods using period parts. If this car weren't red, I might be moved to buy it, just to preserve the legacy. But it belongs in the hands of someone truly dedicated to the car and all that Neil put into it. I miss you Neil. I guess we're all heading in the same direction. You just passed the finish line before your time. |
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Doctor DeSoto - 2018-12-25 6:30 PM
wizard - 2018-12-26 2:36 AM Neils car would be a fantastic car for a true Dodge enthusiast. It is as correct as possible. He truely loved that car. Every time that I check old threads and find his post there's a sting in my heart and a smile on my face. He had a special humor and was always eager to help. He will be remembered forever by a lot of us. =================================
Let's respect Neil's legacy and keep it accurate. If by "correct", you mean OEM correct, Neil did much modification to upgrade his brakes from correct 1957 Dodge brakes. He made no bones about his work and how he developed the "science" behind his system and freely shared his intel. He also was a big proponent to using non-stock distributors and tweaking them for max performance. I am still left feeling exasperated over Neil being so suddenly gone. He was a pillar of research and knowledge and sadly took much of that with him when he departed. I laugh, when I think of him sparring with the motorheads and rodders, and simultaneously frustrated by the ensuing pissing matches they'd always boil down to. He was an odd mix of purist knowledge and practical, restrained use of mods to make his car go better or safer. The modders only saw him as a whining purist, ignoring his own painstaking work to perfect mods using period parts. If this car weren't red, I might be moved to buy it, just to preserve the legacy. But it belongs in the hands of someone truly dedicated to the car and all that Neil put into it. I miss you Neil. I guess we're all heading in the same direction. You just passed the finish line before your time.
Well put, Doc. Just goes to show how fragile we truly are - he definitely left us far too soon.
I put out word out on Bo's business page at Facebook a few days ago. If someone here isn't able to properly caretake for this car, I'm sure Bo or someone in his network would. I knew about the brakes and made that known, but I completely forgot about the electronic ignition. |
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Location: Connecticut | IIRC, he also installed a fan clutch of some sort from a Jaguar. I met Neil, Norma and Horrie at the WPC Nationals in Portland, OR, in 1998. They had just driven up from Bishop, CA, and discovered they had no brake lights. They were stumped as to what the problem was. Turned out to be a disconnected wire, which I fixed for them. Neil's wife, who was in a panic, was very grateful. Ron |
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Neil was a nice guy who always answered my emails. I appreciate that. But I’d question just how much info he took to the grave.
As for the car, she’s a beauty. I think you make the most with an online auction and letting all the Dodge people know. This way you draw in the Dodge people AND the regular collectors. The more eyes the better.
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Location: NY & VT | Much rather see it go to a real dyed-in-the-wool Dodge person than a collector where it'd be just one of many boxes-checked-off, myself. |
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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | Thank you Josh, Everything Neil collected is still there, the way he left it. Including his digital archive, e-mal , etc. There's already quite some serious interest for Horrie, here, at the Forwardlook. But if needed, I will list Horrie on some auction site. Hyfire - 2018-12-26 3:49 PM Neil was a different guy for sure. I’ve always been a forwardlook member since day #1 (member #3 I think) I’ve always been low profile so Neil didn’t know that. Sometimes our paths would cross and I’d share some old historic documents with him. Within a week or so Neil would print them, scan and make them look aged. He’d then post them on here and claimed they were from his long-time archives. He did this often, but I never said a word. Neil was a nice guy who always answered my emails. I appreciate that. But I’d question just how much info he took to the grave. As for the car, she’s a beauty. I think you make the most with an online auction and letting all the Dodge people know. This way you draw in the Dodge people AND the regular collectors. The more eyes the better.
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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | Sadly, this is getting nowhere. Horrie is either going to be sold over eBay or via a classic car dealer that sells on consigment. Concerning the latter, anybody any good advise? Thanks, Jim.
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Location: So. Cal | Just figure out a realistic expectation of value and post it up on Facebook, Ebay & this forum first, Hagerty & Cars-On-Line.com afterward. Classic car dealers will just take more away from you of what you could have gotten out of it. They have no more advertising power than you do, so what service are they really providing? |
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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | Although I think most of us know what the fair market value of our cars is, I think it is wise to show the suggested market value here, but not start some form of an auction, here. I think most of us know what the $ value of Neil’s car is. 1) April 2018 Old Cars Weekly price guide 2) Hemmings 3) Nada Guides Looking at Nada, it would be somewhere between average $32,940 and high $50,085 PM me with your offer. Thanks! Jim.
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Location: somerville mass | im shocked it hasant sold yet to a well loved guy who knew anything and everything about 57 dodges.why don't one of
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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | Thanks Steve! I agree moparsteve - 2019-03-18 9:20 PM im shocked it hasant sold yet to a well loved guy who knew anything and everything about 57 dodges.why don't one of you guys who knew him well buy it? some of you have seen and driven it. its been for sale for too long. I figure its worth 35.000
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Location: So. Cal | Wow, Neil really did keep his engine compartment looking great. The underside has his signature rust proofing too. Even though he could be an annoyance at times, I miss his presence here. |
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Location: Whetstone, Arizona | Wish I could afford to buy her, but its not on the cards for me....Love to have added Horrie to my D500 stable |
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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | I am very happy for Neil's wife to say that we have reached a provisionally agreement on the sale! Also very happy Horrie will stay within our ForwardLook community! I am confident that when all is done we will hear back about Horrie. Thanks, Jim. |
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Location: So. Cal | Congratulations to her and to the new potential owner!
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Location: Whetstone, Arizona | I spoke with the potential owner tonight, As he called me by phone to asked me for some advice and technical questions....I too can also state that Horrie will be in good hands with an avid FL lover...(No...Not me...lol)...but I've known the person since the early 1980's
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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | Ditto,,, Glad its going to a FL Enthusiast ..
Neil told me part of the History of the Car when we were in Tulsa, and How he originally built it as a Show Car for which it won Trophies, He then decided to just Drive and enjoy it,,
Funnily enough, he offered it to me back in 2007 when i was looking for a FL Car to drive to Tulsa for the Unearthing, Although i always considered it "Tongue in Cheek" offer,, But the figure he hit me with was $35k,, How ironic that it was also the figure suggested recently by members here..
RIP Neil and long live Horrie...
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Location: .Norfolk..Mafia.. ,England UK | Rebels-59 - 2019-03-23 3:45 PM
Funnily enough, he offered it to me back in 2007 when i was looking for a FL Car to drive to Tulsa for the Unearthing, Although i always considered it "Tongue in Cheek" offer,, But the figure he hit me with was $35k,, How ironic that it was also the figure suggested recently by members here..
RIP Neil and long live Horrie...
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I know of a certain red/white 57 CRL D500, that is a bargain, @ 35K U.S.D...
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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | That could very well have been my red/white 57 CRL D500, that I had for sale back then, @ 35K ... I eventually sold it to a very nice guy in Sweden, where it stil resides. Rebels-59 - 2019-03-23 7:03 PM Rebels-59 - 2019-03-23 3:45 PM Funnily enough, he offered it to me back in 2007 when i was looking for a FL Car to drive to Tulsa for the Unearthing, Although i always considered it "Tongue in Cheek" offer,, But the figure he hit me with was $35k,, How ironic that it was also the figure suggested recently by members here.. RIP Neil and long live Horrie... Clive . Here you go with original Post from Neil , d500neil - 2007-02-03 12:09 AM I know of a certain red/white 57 CRL D500, that is a bargain, @ 35K U.S.D... |
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Location: Apeldoorn, Netherlands | Again, I am very happy for Neil's wife. This time to say the sale is final now. I am confident you will hear shortly from the new proud owner, here on the ForwardLook website! Thank you all very much! D500Jim - 2019-03-21 11:12 PM I am very happy for Neil's wife to say that we have reached a provisionally agreement on the sale! Also very happy Horrie will stay within our ForwardLook community! I am confident that when all is done we will hear back about Horrie. Thanks, Jim. |
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