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brdtee
Posted 2004-05-04 3:39 PM (#5438)
Subject: 1957 Chrysler Windsor 4d Sedan



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I bought this Windsor today, can anyone translate the serial number for me? It's W57L 4959.

The car has been stored in Finland since 1991 and it's a bit dusty and has no engine (the original engine is still around but disassembled 13 years ago)

The car is sold on 25th of September 1957 by "Seattle Automobile Co., Inc.", any idea if this kind of a dealer still exists?



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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2004-05-04 7:44 PM (#5443 - in reply to #5438)
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I lived in Seattle from 1966 to 1997. I do not ever remember that name as a Chrysler dealership (or any other make, for that matter). LONG GONE !!!!
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Posted 2004-05-04 7:44 PM (#5444 - in reply to #5438)
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Got an address for that dealer ?
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61plymy
Posted 2004-05-04 9:13 PM (#5451 - in reply to #5444)
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You know, I have been here my entire life, but I never heard of that dealership.

SL Savidge was the oldest Chrysler/ Dodge dealer I remember in Seattle. This is one I'm oing to have to ask my Dads about.

I'll let you know what he remebers. He's 84 years young and has a mind like a trap for he long-term memory stuff. In fact, I have a hard time keeping him off of towers and roof tops.

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Posted 2004-05-05 12:52 AM (#5470 - in reply to #5438)
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Glad to hear it worked out for you. Get a good price for what you expected ? I just love those crisp-edged fenders and buckets on the quad lights. Anyone else ever notice the curves and angles on these cars are very reminiscent of feline eyes and ears ? Wonder if Lord Exner was a cat lover ?
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brdtee
Posted 2004-05-05 2:12 AM (#5475 - in reply to #5438)
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I found the Dealer's name on the service certificate dated 9/25/1957 and there's also a license plate frame that says "Seattle Auto". Unfortunately no address of the company found yet - there's still some papers I haven't looked so maybe I will find more information.

The original owner was Eddie G. Haavig, I wonder if he or some family members still alive with memories of the car they had from 1957 to late 1980's. I think it would be too difficult to search these people after all these years...

More pics of the car at http://www.usacarclub.net/chrysler/



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DeS4me
Posted 2004-05-06 12:48 PM (#5568 - in reply to #5438)
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Wow! What a car to have to restore!

I hope you have removed all the bird poop from the rear deck. The paint looks as if it will buff out and the interior looks more dirty than anything else. With a really good clean up job and a motor... you could go cruisin'!

Get the original motor, even if it is in pieces. You can rebuild it. I had to do that with mine and my motor came in two or three boxes!

Good luck!

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brdtee
Posted 2004-05-06 1:30 PM (#5572 - in reply to #5438)
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I will move the car to my own garage within' few weeks and start to clean it up. I'll post some "after" pics when I'm finished with washing and cleaning. I must say it really looks too good to be true.

I even found the address of the very first owner (I'm the third) and he's still alive and well in Seattle. I think I write him a letter and ask if he would be nice enough to write me back some stories, pics or background information about the car.
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Posted 2004-05-06 2:01 PM (#5576 - in reply to #5438)
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here's a shot at the numbers HEIKKI------W-windsor---57-model yr.---L-la. plant---4959-prod. number------later
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2004-05-07 1:34 AM (#5634 - in reply to #5438)
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The original owner is going to flip when you tell him his old car is in Finland ! I see he lived in West Seattle - where my great grandparents lived for many years .... I think they were on 16th! S. L. Savidge was up north on Aurora. This dealer was probably out near where the owner lived (?) It is a long way around the water and across town from West Seattle to where S.L Savidge was. Are they still around ?
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Posted 2004-05-07 11:01 AM (#5654 - in reply to #5634)
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Savidge was on Westlake, downtown. Aurora Chrysler Plymouth may be the one you are thinking of.

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Posted 2004-05-07 7:56 PM (#5676 - in reply to #5438)
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Your are correct! Cut yerself an extra slice of raisin pie, my keen eyed friend!
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brdtee
Posted 2004-05-10 7:25 AM (#5803 - in reply to #5438)
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Here's the data from the VIN-plate:

The first line says "SG: -", "M1: -", "M2: -", "M3: -", "M4: -", "M5: X", "M6: -" and "SEQ NO: 2407".

The second line says "SO: 0814", "NO: 0199", "MODEL: G751", "BT: 1145", "PT: XRX", "TR: 055" and "SP: -".

The third line says "WCO-LA".
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Posted 2004-05-11 3:43 AM (#5843 - in reply to #5438)
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Great find! Looks good. Can't wait to see the 'after cleaning' pics.
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Posted 2004-05-14 5:06 PM (#6061 - in reply to #5803)
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brdtee - 2004-05-10 7:25 AM

Here's the data from the VIN-plate:

The first line says "SG: -", "M1: -", "M2: -", "M3: -", "M4: -", "M5: X", "M6: -" and "SEQ NO: 2407".

The second line says "SO: 0814", "NO: 0199", "MODEL: G751", "BT: 1145", "PT: XRX", "TR: 055" and "SP: -".

The third line says "WCO-LA".


WOW! That's a great find! Very rare to see a car as untouched as yours, congrats!

While I don't know that much of these early tags it looks like;
SEQ NO 2407 = Sequence number
SO 0814 = Scheduled build date August 14th, 1956 (a very early '57)
NO 0199 = ?
MO G751 = Model, should be C751 for Windsor?
BT 1145 = Don't know but I'd guess Body type = 4d sedan
PT XRX = Paint, Cloud White/Regimental Red/Cloud White
TR 055 = Trim, Windsor Tan/Beige cloth & vinyl

Maybe some of you numbers gurus can confirm/fill the blanks?

Hans
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brdtee
Posted 2004-05-15 1:40 PM (#6090 - in reply to #5438)
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Now there's new pics of the Windsor after the three hour "wash and clean"-session, pics located at http://www.usacarclub.net/chrysler/

The car has still dirt on it, but most of the dust and sh*t is gone. I have done nothing for the interior yet but emptied the garbage and other stuff from it.
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DeS4me
Posted 2004-05-15 8:36 PM (#6116 - in reply to #5438)
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brdtee,

I cannot believe the paint on this car! With some polishing and chrome cleaning it looks as if the body is ready to go!! Interior doesn't look to bad either!

What a great find!

Any luck on getting the original engine from the previous owner?

Dean
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brdtee
Posted 2004-05-16 1:24 AM (#6133 - in reply to #6116)
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DeS4me - 2004-05-16 3:36 AM
Any luck on getting the original engine from the previous owner?


The original engine was part of the deal, I'm going to collect the parts next week I hope every part still exists, I found only seven pistons from the trunk... a V7? :D

I'm not sure which kind of a condition the transmission or the rear axle are, but as far as I've been told there was nothing bad about these when the car was driven for the last time.
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Posted 2004-05-16 3:20 PM (#6151 - in reply to #5438)
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Very nice looking car....wait, what I'm saying...did You got it from some sort of time capsule ? Such actions were opular then ;-)
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brdtee
Posted 2004-09-06 7:01 AM (#12128 - in reply to #5438)
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I still haven't started working on this one, but I was able to locate the second owner from Stehekin, WA, USA. He was somewhat surprised when he got my message, but was happy to hear that the Chrysler still exists. He bought this car from the original owner in 1986 and used the car for his holiday resorts transportation needs. In 1989 he sold the car to a guy that told he was buying classic cars for Japanese collectors, but his wife remembers that this one was planned to be sent to Finland instead of Japan. And so it was

Today I sent a letter to the person who originally purchased this Chrysler in 1957. I was able to find his address from the year 2003 and he is still living at Seattle. I hope he will reply to me after hearing that the car he had for 29 years (1957-1986) is now in a far-far-away country in Europe

I will post more pics to my Chrysler Windsor website as the process on the car goes on

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Posted 2004-09-08 5:36 AM (#12266 - in reply to #5438)
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Heikki,
what a nice car you've found! Looks almost ready to be driven again. I've been in Finland a couple of years ago, in Tampere, nice city. It was early March but the teperature was always below 0.
I don't know anything about the story of my car. I've found no original paper in it. Where did you find name and address of the original owner?
Christian
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brdtee
Posted 2004-09-08 8:24 AM (#12270 - in reply to #12266)
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Where did you find name and address of the original owner?


I got the names from the documents that came with the car. I used mainly Google and Alta Vista search engines. Just typing in the person's name wasn't enough, but after trying different combinations of surname, city and street names I was able to find some documents that gave me some ideas for other searchwords that finally guided me to the addresses. I guess the task was easier because of the names that were not so common... finding a particular person whose surname is for example "Smith" would be hard The first owner was mentioned in one tax/property related list of the neighbourhood he lives nowadays and the second one was mentioned in a webzine article and from the article I pickep up few names that helped me to search again and finally I was able to figure out his e-mail address. I may sound easy but it took lots of time to browse around. I guess I used about a five or six days for this search project.
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Posted 2004-09-08 10:28 AM (#12271 - in reply to #12270)
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>I used about a five or six days for this search project.

I found all names of previous owners of my '61 quite easily. I bought my car from Nebraska. I was aware, that previously my car had been in Montana. I inquired it from Department of Justice, motor vehicle department of Montana with VIN number and ordered history of the car. Search based on title number. They provided microfilm copies of all titles, assignments and applications from the very beginning. I'm 7th owner of the car so far. Some states still keep these all records after many decades. I once tried to contact couple the last Montana owners, but they never replied to my letters. I found their current addresses from AOL white pages. The car needed almost everything and lot of TLC when I bought it, so I assume previous owners had not fond with the car and no interest. Btw, I'm Finn too.

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brdtee
Posted 2005-10-19 10:46 AM (#41941 - in reply to #5438)
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There's been no progress in this project of mine since summer of 2004 as you may have noticed. I've been busy with my work on the Finnish automotive website Ovedrive.fi and I haven't found a decent new garage for the Chrysler. Don't worry, the car is in the very good place but only trouble is that there's no heating in that garage and since it can be even -30 degrees of Celsius during the Winter here in Finland, such a cold garage is not very inspirating place to start your work with the car.

Anyway, I'm planning to start project this Winter because I have found a nice garage with some heating and I think I'm able to move the car there in two months. The body and the frame of the car are rustless and the paintjob is good so there's just some polishing on the plated parts and the interior needs a good cleaning. The engine is still missing (I have found one 354 Spitfire which is for sale but the deal is still under negotiations) and the brakes, transmission and other technical parts need to be checked.

I will rebuild my Chrysler project website ( http://www.kromi.org/chrysler/ ) to a blog-like form during these two months before beginning the actual work on the car and I'll promise to post pics and news about the project there during the Winter.
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brdtee
Posted 2006-12-07 6:49 AM (#69322 - in reply to #41941)
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Well yeah... there's no progress so far on the car itself, but now I have a 354 poly engine with 55 000 original miles and almost all the parts that were missing. I also got a pair of seats (back and front bench) which match the interior of my car and are in a great condition. Also the Windsor-script has been found but yet a molding for the passnger side is missing.

I'm really looking forward to finally start the actual work on the car next spring and hopes are high that I could go cruising in summer of 2007 =)

I designed a t-shirt with my Windsor on it and it can be found at http://www.choptopwear.spreadshirt.com/ for US customers and at http://www.choptopwear.com/ for European customers. I'm kind of a graphic designer so maybe I'll do some other FL related shirts too

My Windsor's website can still be found at http://www.overdrive.fi/chrysler/

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Posted 2006-12-07 11:23 AM (#69332 - in reply to #69322)
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Nice Looking Design!
Now, If it were only a green-n-black 56 Dodge...

Seriously, you have some great artistic abilities.
Good Job!

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Posted 2006-12-07 6:37 PM (#69345 - in reply to #69322)
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Heikki, great Windsor and very nice website. My grandparents bought one new and since I grew up with that car its always a happy sight for me to see a healthy survivor like yours.

I'd been meaning to mention also that your animated profile image is just too cool! Watching it blink is almost hypnotic! 

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Posted 2006-12-08 1:55 AM (#69376 - in reply to #5438)
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It still surprises me everytime I see one of the old these "BARN BEAUTIES"
before and then after a simple wash and clean up. They look so much better
you would think these sellers would give them a wash job before they try to sell.
They could get another couple of thousand, they look that much better to me.
Of course, it's good for us purchaser because it gives us something else to
try and get the price down with.
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brdtee
Posted 2008-07-30 6:05 PM (#139694 - in reply to #5438)
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It's been awhile since last progress on my Windsor project. I have not had a decent garage and the one the Windsor has been storaged is not suitable for any restoration or other work on the car. Fortunately we found and bought a nice little house this Spring and it has a garage for four cars so finally I'm able to actually do something for the Windsor.

I have found matching engine, seats, radiator, alternator and finally this week a starter so I guess now I have everything what is needed to get Chrysler moving on her own power. The current schedule is to get her finished before the American Car Show which takes place in Helsinki on April 2009. I'll be posting new photos to my project website as soon as something happens. Mostly it's cleaning and putting parts back to their places so the project should be easy... should...
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Posted 2008-07-30 8:22 PM (#139715 - in reply to #5438)
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Hi Heikki. I don't have much to add here. Great site and a beautyful car. You lucky sono***un.

The name Haavig is Norwegian (100% sure) I have relatives (an old aunt and a cousin) in Lynwood (Seattle). Been there a few times. Bought a '59 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer 4 door hard-top and a pile of '60 DeSoto parts from a guy (member of the WPC Club) who cheated me the worst ever, and kept both the car, the parts, and the mony I paid for it. Also bought a '62 Imperial Crown convertible for a friend of mine on the Vancouver Island (Ian knows all about that) that I imported first into the U.S. (Seattle) and then sendt off from Tacoma and imported it into Norway. This seller and the car was all up to expectations. This Imperial was later sold to Sweden.

GOOD LUCK with your Winsor. I own a '57 Saratoga myself.

Einar.
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Posted 2008-07-31 1:35 AM (#139741 - in reply to #139715)
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The name Haavig is Norwegian (100% sure) I have relatives (an old aunt and a cousin) in Lynwood (Seattle).


You're right, the Haavigs have Norwegian roots. I guess I haven't updated this here but after I sent the letter and few photos to the address I found on the documents and Google, it took over 6 months to get an reply by e-mail. The original owner had passed away in 90's but his daughter sent me thanks for the letter and told many interesting stories about the car. I also got few old photos from the 1970's from their street with Chrysler and Eddie behind the wheel.
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brdtee
Posted 2009-07-06 5:18 AM (#180567 - in reply to #5438)
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Well, it seems to be a good time to update this topic as I just updated my Windsor's website which can be found at http://www.redchrysler.com/ - new pics, new stories and also some 1957 brochures and stuff.

I hope I get the Windsor back on the road this year, it's been already five years when I bought it...



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I hope I get the Windsor back on the road this year, it's been already five years when I bought it...


Don't feel bad, Heikki. My '57 Saratoga sedan has been sitting at Big M's for several years. It is finally coming home next week if all goes well.

I'll take some detailed pictures of it and post them in my album.

K.

P.S.- I have new tail light lenses and a good left tail light housing waiting here for the car to arrive!

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Chrycoman
Posted 2009-07-26 12:01 AM (#182681 - in reply to #6061)
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Here's the data from the VIN-plate:

The first line says "SG: -", "M1: -", "M2: -", "M3: -", "M4: -", "M5: X", "M6: -" and "SEQ NO: 2407".

The second line says "SO: 0814", "NO: 0199", "MODEL: G751", "BT: 1145", "PT: XRX", "TR: 055" and "SP: -".

The third line says "WCO-LA".


WOW! That's a great find! Very rare to see a car as untouched as yours, congrats!

While I don't know that much of these early tags it looks like;
SEQ NO 2407 = Sequence number
SO 0814 = Scheduled build date August 14th, 1956 (a very early '57)
NO 0199 = ?
MO G751 = Model, should be C751 for Windsor?
BT 1145 = Don't know but I'd guess Body type = 4d sedan
PT XRX = Paint, Cloud White/Regimental Red/Cloud White
TR 055 = Trim, Windsor Tan/Beige cloth & vinyl

Maybe some of you numbers gurus can confirm/fill the blanks?

Hans


Little late with this, but the Scheduled Build Date is 14 August 1957 - 1957 production did not begin until 28 September 1956 and ended in August, 1957.

Also, the VIN is W57L-4956, which makes it the 3,956th car built. As the last LA 1957 Windsor was W57L-5120 this car was very close to the end of production which was sometime in late August.

The "NO" was probably for the 199th car to be built on 14 August 1957.
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brdtee
Posted 2009-09-01 11:34 AM (#187160 - in reply to #5438)
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Still trying to put all the parts together... ;)



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brdtee
Posted 2017-09-24 5:03 PM (#549069 - in reply to #5438)
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It's been a long time since last update. The project has taken a LOT longer time I have expected but fortunately there has been slow progress during the years.

I have had to switch garage several times since 2009 which has delayed the work and meanwhile I have been working on a 1959 Ford too.

Here's pictures from 2017 when we moved Windsor to a new garage for a while.



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brdtee
Posted 2017-10-17 6:01 PM (#550501 - in reply to #5438)
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Cleaned the chassis  with some high pressure boiling water today.

 

It's the original sheetmetal. Some say that these rust easily.. well this one seems to have aged well.


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Posted 2017-10-17 6:08 PM (#550502 - in reply to #5438)
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It sure has! Thats amazing.
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Posted 2017-10-17 11:37 PM (#550524 - in reply to #5438)
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that's not rusty? thought you said this car was rusty>???
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Posted 2017-10-24 1:34 AM (#550917 - in reply to #5438)
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While the frame was in good shape, it got new primer after powerwash with boiling water. 

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Posted 2017-10-29 7:47 AM (#551262 - in reply to #5438)
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I have a parts car for this. 1957 Windsor 4 door sedan. Have nearly all the trim, original engine with 48k miles, transmission, rear end, all four doors still, etc. If you need anything, PM me please. Thanks!
Nice car!
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Posted 2017-11-16 12:53 PM (#552405 - in reply to #5438)
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Here's the build card of my car. Does someone know how to decode it?

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Posted 2017-11-17 1:15 AM (#552494 - in reply to #5438)
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Your car was built late in the model year, very close to the end.

The 1957 Chrysler Windsor in the U.S. was model number C75-1. Your serial number is W57L-4959, which it the 3,959th 1957 Windsor built at LA. The last car built at LA was 57L-5120 - 4,120 in total. Which also explains the high engine number - WE57-43788 - 42,788th WE57 built. A further 43,450 C75-1 Windsors were built at the East Jefferson plant in Detroit.

I have copies of Detroit-built 1957 Chrysler and Imperial IBM cards and this one different from these cards, even the sales code numbers. Lots of blank columns on this LA card.

The top two rows give the information on the car's make, model body style, colour, trim, and schedule build date (Shipping Order Number). The second group has three sections with the bottom of the three having the description of the option, the middle row has the first two digits of the sales code while the top box of the group has the third number of the sales code for the options installed on the car.

The next section has room for the items manually recorded as the car proceeded down the line - radio serial number, ignition and trunk key numbers, motor and serial numbers, date built (August 14, 1957) and date shipped (August 15, 1957).
The bottom section has the column numbers (first two digits) from 01 to 80 while the third digit of the code is punched into the card. Bottom row of punched holes is 9.

So, to go by the column numbers :

01-7: Tracking -
02 - Blank
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03-4 45 - State?
04-5
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05-0
06-6
07-5 - 06569 - Dealer Number
08-6
09-9
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10-2 - 23 - Region
11-3
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12- Blank
13- Blank
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14-0
15-8
16-2 - 08200 - Order Number
17-0
18-0
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19-1
20-1 - 1145 - Body Type
21-4 (Chrysler Windsor 4 door Sedan)
22-5
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23- Blank
24-0,7 - X - Cloud White
25-shift 9 - R - Regimental Red
26-0,7 - X - Cloud White
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27-0
28-5 - 055 - Interior Trim - Tan with Beige cloth and vinyl
29-5
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30- Blank
31 - Blank
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32-3 - 323 - Torqueflite ??
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33-1 - 331 - Basic Accessory Group
33-3 - 333 - Comfort Accessory Group
33-8 - 338 - Power Steering
33-9 - 339 - Power Brakes
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34-3 - 343 - Antenna
35- Blank
36-6 - 366 - Safety Dash Panel
37-4 - 374 - ??
38-2 - 382 - Outside remote mirror
39-4 - 394 - Solex glass
40-1 - 401 - Undercoating
41-blank
42-blank
43-blank
44-blank
45-blank
46-blank
47-blank
48-blank
49-blank
50-blank
51-1 - 511 - Tires
52-blank
53-blank
54-blank
55-blank
56-blank
57-blank
58-blank
59-blank
60-blank
61-blank
62-blank
63-blank
64-blank
65-blank
66-blank
67-blank
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68-0 -
69-8 -
70-1 - 08140199 - Shipping Order Number where
71-4 - 0814 - Scheduled Build Date - August 14 (1957)
72-0 - 0199 - Daily production number
73-1 -
74-9 -
75-9 -
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76-4 - 764 - ???
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77-blank
78-blank
79-blank
80-blank

Hope this makes sense.
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brdtee
Posted 2017-11-17 6:51 AM (#552501 - in reply to #5438)
Subject: Re: 1957 Chrysler Windsor 4d Sedan



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Thank you Chrycoman!

The equipment in this car are as far as know by today's situation and pervious owners' info:

* torqueflite
* power steering
* power brakes
* handbrake warning signal
* whitewall tires
* chrome stainless steel wheel covers
* basic model radio
* rear seat speaker (at least previous owner remembers there was original style speaker on the driver's side on rear shelf)
* mirrors on both fenders (no remote though)
* front antenna
* heater
* rear window defroster (there is original switch on the dash and wiring but the actual defroster was throw away in 1990s)
* two-tone paint with Regimental Red and Cloud White
* tinted Solex glass on every window
* windshield washer

Maybe some go into "Basic Accessory Group" or "Comfort Accessory Group" and some into those ???s.

Dealer who ordered the car was Seattle Automobile Company, Inc. located in Seattle WA.

There was only 161 Windsors made in L.A. after this one. I wonder when did the production end, some say it was "mid-August 1957", somewhere August 15th 1957 was mentioned.

Edited by brdtee 2017-11-17 6:53 AM
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Posted 2017-11-30 2:01 PM (#553442 - in reply to #5438)
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The 354 has 55,000 miles on it but as it was in the garage, we decided to peek inside and do a light overhaul with new timing gear & chain, new piston rings and new gaskets. One piston ring was broken and the timing chain quite loose so it was good we opened it.





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Posted 2018-02-16 4:33 AM (#558194 - in reply to #5438)
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Engine on it's way ... meanwhile also front suspension and brake overhaul done but no pics yet.





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Posted 2018-02-16 12:10 PM (#558215 - in reply to #5438)
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Lookin' good. Those 354 poly motors run pretty strong. I really like the one in my Windsor.
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Posted 2019-02-22 5:12 PM (#578522 - in reply to #5438)
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Uhh. back on the project again. Last winter we got it already going but then the garage owner needed the space and I had to pack Windsor aside and there was no progress in 2018.

In January we moved the car once again to a new garage, this time local car club's and hopefully now we have chance to progess.

Dash removed for new paint, new pad and new wiring.



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Posted 2019-02-24 2:25 PM (#578590 - in reply to #5438)
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Today I started the sound dampening project. I'm planning to use "StP Black Gold" sound dampeners on the floor. After few hours I got half of the area made.



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Posted 2019-02-24 6:48 PM (#578608 - in reply to #578522)
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brdtee - 2019-02-22 5:12 PM

Uhh. back on the project again. Last winter we got it already going but then the garage owner needed the space and I had to pack Windsor aside and there was no progress in 2018.

In January we moved the car once again to a new garage, this time local car club's and hopefully now we have chance to progess.

Dash removed for new paint, new pad and new wiring.


Great project and nice work!!
I made wiring for these cars for years and have closed my business. If you know someone in Finland who is now making them tell him to email me. I probably have materials left over he could use.
Thanks, Greg
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