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firedome
Posted 2007-11-14 4:13 PM (#103238 - in reply to #84303)
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Great pictures! ...there's a whole type of '50s/60s architecture that's now called Googie that was most prevalent in So Cal but found all over the US... the "Wonder Bowl" postcard was kind of a conservative example, the Googie look generally had lots of boonerangs, starbursts, wild colors, folded or pointed roofs, "forward look" kind of signage, space-age lighting stuff... goes great with our cars! There's several books on it, and you can see eamples by Google-ing Googie ... hey I like that... Google Googie!
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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-11-14 4:16 PM (#103239 - in reply to #103238)
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I always saw that look as being "Space Age" styling.

I never heard the term "Googie", but that works, too!

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Posted 2007-11-14 4:32 PM (#103241 - in reply to #103238)
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Posted 2007-11-14 4:38 PM (#103242 - in reply to #82473)
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vedette
Posted 2007-12-05 8:23 PM (#106062 - in reply to #81647)
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old mopar guy
Posted 2007-12-05 11:19 PM (#106096 - in reply to #81647)
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this is a great collection of post cards and photos thanks guys! HAPPY MOTORING!!!
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d500neil
Posted 2007-12-06 1:33 AM (#106109 - in reply to #81647)
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For anyone interested (and we all should be, as devotees of all things-50's) in the genre, there are two volumes/editions of the book "Googie: 50's coffee shop achitecture", by Alan Hess (Chronicle Books), altho the earlier one may be out of print, and only available via used book stores.

The books are very well written, & illustrated.

The term "Googie" : "....the detractors [of 50's style Moderne coffee shops & drive-in restaurants] labeled these structures the 'Googie School of Architecture', after a particularly outlandish coffee shop in L.A. .

Googie's was located at the corner of Olive & 5TH, in downtown L.A., and featured a distinctive horizontaly/diagonally banded fascade, with animated- looking "Googie" name-boards, which had the effect of grabbing passers-by attention, like static neon signposts.

The mansard-roof treatments were applied to the ground floor restaurant area, of a 6-story commercial business building. There were extensive glass wall-panels, so that the borders between outside & inside environments became merged.

A companion book is "Populuxe", by Thomas Hine (Knopf), a MUST have, and then there's another ESSENTIAL book (it's a thickee!) "50's All American Ads", by Jim Heimann (Taschen): full-color, and close-up portions of all-things 50's magazine advertisements.

The last (next) book that you should have is "The 50's" by David Halberstam (R.I.P.).

Then, there are: "The Fifties (Photographs of America", by Magnum Photos (Pantheon), "The 1950's", by Edith Horsley" (Domus Books), and Southern California in the 50's", by [good-old FWDLK-maven: ] Charles Phoenix (Angel City Press).

All these books concern the 50's ethos and culture, and do show/discuss finned cars, to varying extents, but their viewpoint is much broader and complete than the books which merely discuss "50's cars".










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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2007-12-06 1:41 AM (#106112 - in reply to #106096)
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The term "Googie" was coined by architectural critics after the Googie's coffee shop on Sunset Blvd. at Crescent Heights in LA, designed by John Lautner, built 1949. It was an early glass wall coffee shop that ushered in the era of George Jetson strip styling.

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d500neil
Posted 2007-12-06 1:50 AM (#106113 - in reply to #81647)
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My Googie book shows the restaurant at Olive & 5th, and has its design be created by Armet & Davis.
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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-12-06 3:08 AM (#106117 - in reply to #106096)
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vedette
Posted 2007-12-06 7:21 PM (#106226 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2007-12-06 9:47 PM (#106250 - in reply to #106113)
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My Googie book shows the restaurant at Olive & 5th, and has its design be created by Armet & Davis.


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I believe a second Googie's was opened later. I refer to the original, built in 1949. Got a build date on the other one ?

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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-12-09 8:16 PM (#106573 - in reply to #106250)
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Posted 2007-12-10 1:41 AM (#106591 - in reply to #106250)
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Get a load of that 57 DeSoto sans bumper / grille coming at the camera !

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wizard
Posted 2007-12-10 3:46 PM (#106658 - in reply to #81647)
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Really nice postcards - TNX a lot for posting them! I did noticed that there where only 2 Chrysler 60 in the cards - a rare car even back then?
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58 DESOTOS RULE
Posted 2007-12-11 8:21 AM (#106727 - in reply to #81647)
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A very interesting collection of postcards indeed! I wish I could go back into that era and buy a couple of loaded MoPars. I wouldn’t want many – just a 1958 DeSoto Adventurer, a 1960 Chrysler New Yorker, a 1960 Dodge Polara wagon, and a 1961 Plymouth Fury. I’m not greedy!

There were a couple of interesting odd sightings too. In the picture Michigan300B, there’s a 1950-51 Shoebox Ford parked in the front rank. It appears to have a custom grille bar as I never saw a stock one that looked like that. Maybe it came from a 1953 Plymouth?

In the picture STL02 the 1959 Plymouth wagon is wearing a US Government license tag. I wonder which government agency thought it needed a wagon, the Post Office maybe?

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d500neil
Posted 2007-12-11 5:56 PM (#106796 - in reply to #81647)
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Boy, this is the wrong thread, to discuss Googie commercial architecture, but I got back out my book, & LO: John Lautner did design the 1st Googie coffee shop, in 1949, at the corner of Sunset Blvd & Crescent Hts, in . L.A.

In 1952, House & Home's architectural editor, Douglas Haskell, with a passenger-witness, drove past Googie's & declared that all such mid-century Modern architecture was henceforth to be called "Googie", and, the term stuck.

The book does not explain why the architectect was changed, but, in 1955, Armet & Davis were hired to design "Googie's Downtown" at the corner of Olive & 5th.

The book does say, of Armet & Davis : "It was the prolific team of Louis Armet & Eldon Davis that established the Coffee Shop Modernn as a major popular modern style. ....enough [buildings] remain, even altered, so that it is the work of Armet & Davis that creates the major physical memory of the style. "












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vedette
Posted 2007-12-11 6:23 PM (#106801 - in reply to #81647)
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Here's some postcards of Neil Vedder on his coast to coast trip back in the '50s looking for "Googie" architecture.



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Posted 2007-12-11 8:13 PM (#106826 - in reply to #81647)
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That's actually rust-out, going-on, on that parked Coro.

I just scored a copy of that St Petersburg, FL postcard, and will make an 8x12" digital cropped-copy of it, for matting/framing
in my office, alongside a certain all-blue CRL convertible, that I've done that treatment-to.

Note the dual antennae (mine's got a single-fender mount) and the correct (dammnit) OEM eggshell-painted wheels. My car, too
did not come OEM with spinners, (but he's damm-sure wearing those 'spats', now!)





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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-12-14 12:43 AM (#107065 - in reply to #106826)
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Posted 2007-12-14 7:56 PM (#107192 - in reply to #81647)
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...which answers the riddle: " When does an electric trolley car appear to have automotive FINS on it (without its actually having been
IN a collision, with one??)
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Posted 2007-12-14 8:10 PM (#107199 - in reply to #106727)
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58 DESOTOS RULE - 2007-12-11 8:21 AM

There were a couple of interesting odd sightings too. In the picture Michigan300B, there’s a 1950-51 Shoebox Ford parked in the front rank. It appears to have a custom grille bar as I never saw a stock one that looked like that. Maybe it came from a 1953 Plymouth?

Isn't that grille bar of a 1954 Pontiac?.



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58 DESOTOS RULE
Posted 2007-12-14 8:43 PM (#107205 - in reply to #81647)
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I believe you are correct; a 1954 Pontiac bumper bar looks closer than a 1953 Plymouth. Rather bland though. The fellow might have made his front end more exciting by using the chrome grille teeth from a 1952-3 DeSoto. It was a common trick back in the 50s.
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Posted 2007-12-14 8:52 PM (#107206 - in reply to #81647)
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it looks like his door/side chrome trim was lifted off a 1955 Pontiac.
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Posted 2007-12-21 6:10 PM (#108118 - in reply to #81647)
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These are not postcards, but great old streetscape images with a few forwardlooks:

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Posted 2007-12-21 8:44 PM (#108132 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2007-12-21 8:47 PM (#108134 - in reply to #81647)
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This is at Hahn AB, Germany, about 1962 or 1963.

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Kenny J.
Posted 2007-12-22 10:45 AM (#108183 - in reply to #108134)
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Posted 2007-12-22 9:09 PM (#108230 - in reply to #81647)
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vedette
Posted 2007-12-25 3:21 PM (#108387 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2007-12-25 4:05 PM (#108390 - in reply to #108387)
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Posted 2007-12-25 7:59 PM (#108408 - in reply to #108390)
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No doubt some rip-rockin' Polka !
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Posted 2007-12-25 8:18 PM (#108415 - in reply to #81647)
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Hows this....57 and '58 Dodge and a couple of Plymutts.



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Posted 2007-12-26 11:22 AM (#108448 - in reply to #108415)
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Hows this....57 and '58 Dodge and a couple of Plymutts.


I love that top photo in the message above. The trash can hanging off the pole (by the bus stop sign) looks a little small to handle the trash needs for the streetscape.
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Posted 2007-12-26 9:41 PM (#108509 - in reply to #81647)
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Anyone notice the roofline, on that 59 IMP, in Pecos, TX?
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Posted 2007-12-29 2:35 PM (#108874 - in reply to #108509)
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d500neil - 2007-12-26 9:41 PM

Anyone notice the roofline, on that 59 IMP, in Pecos, TX?

Looks a bit Crown Imperial Ghia-limousine style.



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Posted 2007-12-30 9:46 PM (#109036 - in reply to #81647)
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a few dealer's postcards



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Posted 2007-12-30 10:20 PM (#109042 - in reply to #81647)
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I enjoyed those last post cards for more than the FL cars. Some of the pictures were taken near my home town in North Dakota, and the hospital is the one where my cousin was head nurse in the oncology ward for over 20 years.
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Posted 2008-01-01 6:36 PM (#109277 - in reply to #109042)
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GaryS - 2007-12-30 10:20 PM

I enjoyed those last post cards for more than the FL cars. Some of the pictures were taken near my home town in North Dakota, and the hospital is the one where my cousin was head nurse in the oncology ward for over 20 years.
glad you liked them,



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Posted 2008-01-03 1:55 PM (#109545 - in reply to #82381)
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Seeing the pictures of the electric buses really took me back. I will never forget the hot oil/electric smell of them nor the odd electrical motor sound they made when they move off from a stand still. Sort of a "Rrrrrrrrrrrr". I saw and rode mine in Germany.

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Posted 2008-01-03 2:05 PM (#109547 - in reply to #83303)
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Looking at these old postcards got me to wondering, "Does anyone still take photos like these." I sincerely doubt it. Now its all techno glitz and special effects. No place for pictures showing things as they are with an eye toward saving a time/place for future viewers. Sad commentary.

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Posted 2008-01-03 3:12 PM (#109553 - in reply to #81647)
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I wonder where this motel was in Dover, NJ? Was it on US Hwy 46 or NJ State Route 15? I lived in that area for three years from 1987 to 1990 and I don't remember this place. Nice 56 Plymouth though.



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Posted 2008-01-03 5:23 PM (#109578 - in reply to #81647)
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I finally see one Opel Rekord Olympia caught in traffic read that these were imported after '58 recession but so poorly and I never seen one on photo.
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Posted 2008-01-03 5:33 PM (#109581 - in reply to #81647)
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Couple observations: Does anyone recognize what kind-year of car is approaching the camara, in the Loveland, CO, downtown-
scene (around the middle of this page) ??---I can't figure it out.

I just won the card, showing the yellow/white CRL D500, in Park Falls, WI.

That coffeeshop, in Ironwood, MI is scarily-seismically deficient, by having its heavy upper living area supported (sort-of!) by
the lower plate glass windows, and without having ANY corner-support, on the left-side, to resist "racking" movement.
And, yeah: Michigan can get earthquakes!






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Posted 2008-01-03 5:46 PM (#109585 - in reply to #109581)
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d500neil - 2008-01-03 10:33 PM

Couple observations: Does anyone recognize what kind-year of car is approaching the camara, in the Loveland, CO, downtown-
scene (around the middle of this page) ??---I can't figure it out.

Vw Karmann Ghia typ 34 ? http://karmann-ghia-lippe-nrw.de/mitglieder/m_ueberdick.htm
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Posted 2008-01-03 6:40 PM (#109597 - in reply to #109581)
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d500neil - 2008-01-03 5:33 PM

Couple observations: Does anyone recognize what kind-year of car is approaching the camara, in the Loveland, CO, downtown-
scene (around the middle of this page) ??---I can't figure it out.

I just won the card, showing the yellow/white CRL D500, in Park Falls, WI.

That coffeeshop, in Ironwood, MI is scarily-seismically deficient, by having its heavy upper living area supported (sort-of!) by
the lower plate glass windows, and without having ANY corner-support, on the left-side, to resist "racking" movement.
And, yeah: Michigan can get earthquakes!



Neil,that one in Loveland CO is a tough one,at first glance I thought it was a 1960 Pontiac ,but on closer inspection I'd say a 1957 Dodge with customised front-end.Here's another one from Ironwood MI during an earthquake(split the town in two)and for FinFan there's also another Opel Olympia Rekord.








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Posted 2008-01-03 6:57 PM (#109598 - in reply to #81647)
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Looks like even the basic Rambler DeLuxe had fins taller than the poor Olympia. But European fins rarely went up, usually only sticked out on the end.
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Posted 2008-01-03 7:59 PM (#109606 - in reply to #108390)
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Posted 2008-01-03 8:29 PM (#109616 - in reply to #81647)
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These were never officially imported into the United States by VW so it's unlikely it would be one of those. We had a Karmann-Ghia body parts book at our dealership with section devoted to the Type III varient, but we never saw one. The Squareback and the fastback models were the only ones sold officially here and they were only here from 1965 to 1973.

As for the postcard, I can't blow it up enough to tell what kind of car that is facing the camera. My best guess is it might have been a 1960 Pontiac, but there isn't enough resolution in the picture.



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Posted 2008-01-05 11:22 PM (#109786 - in reply to #81647)
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