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Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Portage la Prairie, Manitoba. (Little Portage2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Little Portage2.jpg (96KB - 716 downloads) | ||
chrycopsycho |
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Expert Posts: 1309 Location: Comox,British Columbia | hello red ram, erik from vancouver island here.Nice car you got,do you know brent burch from selkirk?
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Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | I think I met him in front of Polo Park in 2004. He has a Plymouth? Square steering wheel? I have pix on CD somewhere. | ||
Ex-finlover |
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Veteran Posts: 205 Location: Delray Beach, FL | The Forward Look postcards just keep coming... (US1-Lake_Worth_FL.jpg) (Honeymoon_Motel.jpg) (Guadalajara_Mex.jpg) (El_Rancho_Court.jpg) (Render_&_Son.jpg) (Cape_Cod_Colony_Motel.jpg) (Bill_Poer_Chrysler.jpg) (Ft_Myers_Post_Office.jpg) Attachments ---------------- US1-Lake_Worth_FL.jpg (38KB - 713 downloads) Honeymoon_Motel.jpg (38KB - 681 downloads) Guadalajara_Mex.jpg (31KB - 717 downloads) El_Rancho_Court.jpg (26KB - 719 downloads) Render_&_Son.jpg (31KB - 710 downloads) Cape_Cod_Colony_Motel.jpg (39KB - 690 downloads) Bill_Poer_Chrysler.jpg (21KB - 721 downloads) Ft_Myers_Post_Office.jpg (43KB - 727 downloads) | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | and some more... ('60 Fury conv in '61.jpg) (1959.jpg) ('59 chrysler saratoga in '62.jpg) (drive-in-church-daytona-beach-florida.jpg) (the-jungle-anaheim-ca-1959.jpg) (2007-05-11-USCP%20TRAILER%20SOW.jpg) Attachments ---------------- '60 Fury conv in '61.jpg (29KB - 711 downloads) 1959.jpg (23KB - 706 downloads) '59 chrysler saratoga in '62.jpg (29KB - 698 downloads) drive-in-church-daytona-beach-florida.jpg (51KB - 739 downloads) the-jungle-anaheim-ca-1959.jpg (77KB - 684 downloads) 2007-05-11-USCP%20TRAILER%20SOW.jpg (63KB - 695 downloads) | ||
Kenny J. |
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | This photo was taken in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania during an August 23, 1964 charter trip by some rail enthusiasts. You can see evidence of the seven year old Dodge's fender "eyebrow" losing its battle to the tin worm. K. (p0440.jpg) Attachments ---------------- p0440.jpg (41KB - 683 downloads) | ||
FinFan |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 709 Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe | And it has 43 years to live still | ||
Kenny J. |
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Also notice the collision damage and what appears to be rust where the rocker panel meets the lower rear edge of the fender. K. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | NOBODY'S yet spotted the DeSoto Junior, parked in front of the Render & Son dealership???? Also, in Re: that 57 Coro-or-Roy sedan (could be either-one), I believe that it's suffering from that nastier-than-obvious side-hit, more than from rust! Its body looks remarkably rust-free, in 1964, from having lived in the Pittsburgh area(!!!!) Due to the lack of surface rust on the exposed fender-area, I'm thinking that the collision may have occurred relatively recent, prior to the photo's having been taken. The front bodywork has been shoved WAY-over, from that side-hit, on the fender! That lighter-color, around the headlight-chrome-trim appears to be paint-primer (which is very-porous, it's not a good metal-sealer, so if the owner had had the primer be applied, he should have been planning on getting the fender be touched-up, relatively soon!), so, perhaps, the owner WAS doing some rust-repair, in that area, when he got clobbered, from the side! The rocker panel looks remarkably non-rusty, though! The car must have had its wheel alignment be thrown off, by the side-hit. | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | Neil's eagle-eyes are better than mine,it is a DeSoto Firemite at W.J. Render & Son Co.,1001 S.Federal Highway,Pompano Beach,Florida. Edited by vedette 2007-07-19 8:15 PM | ||
Ex-finlover |
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Veteran Posts: 205 Location: Delray Beach, FL | More postcards... (Hi_Jinks.jpg) (Cowhouse.jpg) (Laramie_WY.jpg) (Tick_Tock.jpg) (St_Mary's_Hospital.jpg) (Dinny_Dinosaur.jpg) (Guggenheim.jpg) (Swiss_Chalet.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Hi_Jinks.jpg (31KB - 681 downloads) Cowhouse.jpg (24KB - 669 downloads) Laramie_WY.jpg (33KB - 682 downloads) Tick_Tock.jpg (25KB - 643 downloads) St_Mary's_Hospital.jpg (34KB - 677 downloads) Dinny_Dinosaur.jpg (32KB - 695 downloads) Guggenheim.jpg (37KB - 676 downloads) Swiss_Chalet.jpg (54KB - 682 downloads) | ||
Kenny J. |
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Inactive by user's request Location: Las Vegas, Nevada | Here are some more mid 1960s views of Forward Look cars from my Pittsburgh streetcar photo collection. Plus some "orphan" vehicles: (p0462.jpg) (p0463.jpg) (p0464.jpg) (p0466.jpg) (p0457.jpg) (p0465.jpg) Attachments ---------------- p0462.jpg (53KB - 703 downloads) p0463.jpg (55KB - 683 downloads) p0464.jpg (40KB - 665 downloads) p0466.jpg (64KB - 697 downloads) p0457.jpg (60KB - 695 downloads) p0465.jpg (61KB - 682 downloads) | ||
FinFan |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 709 Location: Poznan, Poland, Europe | Edsel,Studebakers and Polara...it's good feeling to see the proof those were once a regular cars seen on the street. For someone like me, knowing them only from pics in the web, it's good to see them in natural environment | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | That shot of Render & Son Co. dealership is to DIE for ! That building has an uncanny resemblence to the drawings I have done up for my shop. Bend it more in the middle to make a "V" and enlarge the 2nd story for work space and it is pretty darned close. All my rooflines slope to the back for snow - that probably wasn't a consideration in Florida. I am a few cars shy of a full dealer stock, but maybe I could order some in from the factory ??? The inventory is interesting. Besides the Firemite out front, it looks like they have a left over 57 Firedome convertible, with another 58 big body convertible hiding in the back. I see two 58 Plymouth hardtops and an upline wagon, along with various HT big body DeSotos - is there even a single Firesweep visible ? I think I see one car with blackwall tires ! Pretty upscale establishment you got there, Mr. Render ! Reminds me of going with my Grandad down to tour all the car dealerships to see all the new cars when I was very young. Imagine doing that today. " Oh look, this Mazda 6 looks just like it did three years ago ! .... Are those those ribs in the hood of the new Sebring supposed to make it look less like a bar of soap ? " Looks like history has proven that I was a kid at the right time. | ||
Ex-finlover |
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Veteran Posts: 205 Location: Delray Beach, FL | Still more Forward Look Postcards... (Police_Hall_of_Fame.jpg) (Podway_Motors.jpg) (Holiday_Inn_Gainesville_FL.jpg) (Virginia_City_NV.jpg) (Sea_Level_Inn.jpg) (Currin_Massey_Dodge.jpg) (Detroit_MI.jpg) (Holiday_Restaurant.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Police_Hall_of_Fame.jpg (34KB - 668 downloads) Podway_Motors.jpg (34KB - 699 downloads) Holiday_Inn_Gainesville_FL.jpg (39KB - 666 downloads) Virginia_City_NV.jpg (37KB - 666 downloads) Sea_Level_Inn.jpg (33KB - 649 downloads) Currin_Massey_Dodge.jpg (29KB - 633 downloads) Detroit_MI.jpg (47KB - 652 downloads) Holiday_Restaurant.jpg (39KB - 658 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | OK; what kinda car is the all-black convie, sitting RIGHT-NOW, on the showroom, of Bill Poer CHRY/PLY ???? And, can anyone name the famous movie, that features (well, SHOWS, anyway) a 57 Dodge Taxi, just-like the one, which appears parked in front of the Guggenheim Museum??? | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | That 61 Plymmie, in the Police car Hall of Fame couldn't possibly be from the TV show "Car 54, Where Are You?" ; Could it? Why they would display a 61 PLY-prowl-car , among all the other examples available, otherwize; I dunno ! | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2007-07-22 3:11 PM OK; what kinda car is the all-black convie, sitting RIGHT-NOW, on the showroom, of Bill Poer CHRY/PLY ???? ******************* 59 Chrysler or Plymouth would be my guess | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | That's NOT good enough! I want you to GO there & BUY me that car!! Please. I'll send you a check; it's in the mail! | ||
Ex-finlover |
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Veteran Posts: 205 Location: Delray Beach, FL | Make the check out to: Bill Poer, Inc. 202 South Myrtle Ave. Monrovia, CA Phone ELliott 8-3261 | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | MONROVIA???; Sheeitt, that's just down the block, from AIVAR ! He's probably already GOT it. Thanks for nothing!!! MAN.... | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2007-07-22 4:02 PM That's NOT good enough! I want you to GO there & BUY me that car!! Please. I'll send you a check; it's in the mail! ************************* Neil, wait a year. The 1960 models are a lot better looking ! | ||
Ex-finlover |
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Veteran Posts: 205 Location: Delray Beach, FL | d500neil - 2007-07-21 6:16 PM That 61 Plymmie, in the Police car Hall of Fame couldn't possibly be from the TV show "Car 54, Where Are You?" ; Could it? Why they would display a 61 PLY-prowl-car , among all the other examples available, otherwize; I dunno ! The card describes the car as a 1961 Plymouth pursuit car - no mention of the TV show. This was originally in Port Charlotte, FL whaen it began in the early 60's. The museum moved to Miami in 1990 and then again to Titusville, FL a few years ago. I've never visited. The Miami location used to have a '77 Plymouth squad car bolted to the face of the building that was pretty cool. I'm not sure if the '61 Plymouth is still around - but it's possible. | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | it looks like a '59 Sport Fury convertible sitting waiting in Bill's showroom. | ||
Ex-finlover |
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Veteran Posts: 205 Location: Delray Beach, FL | Here's some photos I've tucked away on my hard drive... BTW - Fred Schimmel was a designer at Chrysler in the 1960's. He did work on the Barracuda. Edited by Ex-finlover 2007-07-22 12:10 PM (Lynda.jpg) (59 Imperial Photo.jpg) (60 Plymouth NASCAR.jpg) (Fred-Schimmel.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Lynda.jpg (50KB - 647 downloads) 59 Imperial Photo.jpg (25KB - 649 downloads) 60 Plymouth NASCAR.jpg (20KB - 683 downloads) Fred-Schimmel.jpg (65KB - 691 downloads) | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | anyone know which race this is from? (57dodgerace.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 57dodgerace.jpg (40KB - 646 downloads) | ||
Ex-finlover |
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Veteran Posts: 205 Location: Delray Beach, FL | Here are some old NASCAR photos from my collection... (NASCAR_Photo-1.jpg) (NASCAR_Photo-2.jpg) (NASCAR_Photo-3.jpg) Attachments ---------------- NASCAR_Photo-1.jpg (52KB - 663 downloads) NASCAR_Photo-2.jpg (43KB - 649 downloads) NASCAR_Photo-3.jpg (37KB - 651 downloads) | ||
Ex-finlover |
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Veteran Posts: 205 Location: Delray Beach, FL | More postcards flaunting the forward look! (Little_America.jpg) (Main_ST_L'Anse_MI.jpg) (Peoples_Building.jpg) (Newcastle_NB.jpg) (Cape_Cod_Anchor.jpg) (Nogales_Sonora_Mex.jpg) (Palomino_Motel.jpg) (Clematis_ST_WPB_FL.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Little_America.jpg (31KB - 674 downloads) Main_ST_L'Anse_MI.jpg (24KB - 630 downloads) Peoples_Building.jpg (27KB - 643 downloads) Newcastle_NB.jpg (45KB - 674 downloads) Cape_Cod_Anchor.jpg (40KB - 673 downloads) Nogales_Sonora_Mex.jpg (39KB - 636 downloads) Palomino_Motel.jpg (27KB - 635 downloads) Clematis_ST_WPB_FL.jpg (27KB - 641 downloads) | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Another from the Imperial House restaurant. (Imperial inset.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Imperial inset.jpg (101KB - 664 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Going back to Mark Jollie's photo, above; the race is clearly not a NASCAR event, which were only held on dirt-County, or paved Speedways (like Darlington, or Raleigh NC) or on beach/roadway (Daytona, before 1959) . There were secondary sanctioning racing groups organized, in the 50's, and this might be one of them. There does appear to be some uniformity on the Marque-placement, on the quarter panels, but no advertising on the cars? What's most-interesting, besides the complete lack of sponsorship on these two cars is the Buck running wide whitewall tires (Goodyear "White"-Streaks???) , but there do appear to be rollbars installed, and hood tie-downs, so, these are probably dedicated race cars, even though they are not the sturdier 2-door sedan models. The Dodge is accelerating, almost over-steering, and the Buck is plowing along, decellerating, on an incorrect line. In 1958, Dick Joslin drove the 1957 Dodge, belonging to Doc White, in NASCAR ; that car wore number 71. Mark's race appears to be occurring in an Eastern city, due to the predominance of brick buildings, and, the iron Street lamps look to have been there since the early 1900's. 38 cars being entered, is a BIG field! Small NASCAR venues would see only about 19 - 26 cars being entered in a race. Daytona saw 72 (!!) entries in 1956; 57 in '57, and 49, in '58. | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | A Plymouth at Fort Nelson, B.C.. (FortNelson1957Plymouth.jpg) Attachments ---------------- FortNelson1957Plymouth.jpg (42KB - 658 downloads) | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Fort Nelson is a BARGE? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2007-09-19 4:36 PM Fort Nelson is a BARGE? *************************** Yes, .... little known history, but the Canadian Air Force was able to successfully elude the British for several hundred years by keeping their air bases mobile like this. Early aircraft carriers, you know. In 1958, they were flying the new Plymouth Plaza fighter. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | I didn't realize that Fort Nelson is a part of the Canadian Homeland Security program. So, THAT'S why all that Secret-Agent-Spy-Scope stuff is hidden under those tarps!!! | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Hey, Brent; if we tell CLIVE and Chuck about what-you-said, maybe we ALL can share in some sort or RE-ward, here!!?? And,. is that why Fart had an "Interceptor" motor, in their tugboat, in 1957? | ||
horace |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 471 Location: MN | Neil, your right about the wheels except models equipped with standard HUB CAPS where they were body colored. RE: the Convert it's user is apparently a young person who would like to show their bolts off occasionally thus painting the wheels black. The wheels appear to me darker than this Coronet's paint. Maybe as a stripped Coronet it came originally with hub caps who knows, but I would accept in inclubing the ladies in my driveway. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Hey, Gerry ; long time....! You KNOW? I'm thinking about doggie-shod cars, now: those hubcaps were the cheapest wheel cover available; but, did/would the Corp paint the wheels, "because-of" the amount of the wheel, which would be necessarily exposed (and which would be that awful corp-eggshell-white), regardless of the car's main body color(s)?????? There is a 'famous' photo, that Mark Jollie(?) posted, featuring a 57 Coro convertible, which is VERY stripped-down, but which has dark-colored wheels, showing around the full-width wheel-covers. I'm wondering, now, if that car might have been built with doggie-covers, but, the dealership might have retro-fitted the full-width covers onto it, to try to "dress" it up (a little)! As Coros would have been almost certainly the 'only' models to have been built with 'doggies', it might stand to reason that a "performance" (D500) or a stripper Coro, which NOW has full-width wheel covers, or spinners, (or doggies!) on it, but which appears to have OEM "body-painted" wheels, may, indeed, have had the wheels be painted at the factory. But, again: for the 'doggie-cars' to have had special-painted wheels, those wheels would have had to pass thru the paint-station booth(s), along with their intended-installation cars (and that would appear to me, to involve a lot of extra work, at the factory, on a low-end car!). SO: we need to see some vintage photos of doggie-equipped cars! Edited by d500neil 2007-09-21 3:58 PM | ||
Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | Why would they have to move with the car? Couldn't they paint a batch of a particular color at one time and pull when needed? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The 57 CHP 2S Coronet I had was fit with black wheels. I cannot say they were not changed or painted over the years, but as I found it, they were done in old, black paint. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Well, the CHP cars had a rather unique exterior paint job, too, from the factory. | ||
d500neil |
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Exner Expert 19,174 posts. Neil passed away 18 Sep 2015. You will be missed, Neil! Posts: 19146 Location: bishop, ca | Painting a bunch of wheel colors, at one time, would not be cost-materials-or-space effective (sitting around, getting nicked-up, taking up some huge amount of limited-space). The factory only wanted to get the "Units" out the door, as quickly (and hopefully, as efficiently) as possible. That said, I do believe that the wheels were painted "Eggshell" in house, because otherwize, painting OVER the pre- painted 'white' would be problematic, as far as color-coverage, bleed-thru, and paint-chipping is concerned. I just don't know the logistics of how a set of wheels got anything OTHER than the Eggshell paint! It would not be fun/easy/cheap to mix-up and clean-out a small batch of a particular color, at the wheel-paint-booth; that's why I think that a set of wheels might have accompanied the car (somehow) along the paint-line(??) , if the wheels were anything other than 'white'. | ||
moparsteve |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1155 Location: somerville mass | life was better, simple. i remember 1964 or so, and I DO remember in '62 to be told in school to stop drop and roll and were the civil defense shelter was! kennedy did a good job talking kruschev out of bombing us! but like billy joel says - the good ol days werent always good! no terrorism exc for the cuban missle crisis and we didnt have to worry about our kids! and when we went shopping we were served by an american to give us our coffee and donut without us having to repeat the order twice!!! there were gangs in the 50s but they had chains broke into stores and stole cars! there were good and bad "car clubs". they didnt kill people or rape women or children. exc. for "in cold blood" or charles starkweather & caril fugate. rememvber them? that was rare almost non existant then. they thought he looked like james dean!!! that was nebraska 1958. i dont remember much now is was born in '54. what was it rreally like to live between 1957-62? | ||
Swept57 |
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Expert Posts: 1622 Location: Seville, OH | d500neil - 2007-09-21 8:35 PM Painting a bunch of wheel colors, at one time, would not be cost-materials-or-space effective (sitting around, getting nicked-up, taking up some huge amount of limited-space). Body colored wheels were common on low-end and muscle models in the 60s. I don't know what the process was but it was done. | ||
Red Ram |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 303 Location: P la P, Man | Roth Motel; Clarksburg, WV. (Roth Motel.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Roth Motel.jpg (92KB - 640 downloads) | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Some ather card with cars Edited by Windsor59 2007-09-26 2:21 AM (AsburyParkPool.jpg) (BreezewoodPAMotel.jpg) (BrownsvilleTXBank.jpg) (HamptonBeachCars.jpg) (OldTucsonTailfins.jpg) (RenoNVMirador.jpg) (TrinidadCOCars.jpg) Attachments ---------------- AsburyParkPool.jpg (75KB - 651 downloads) BreezewoodPAMotel.jpg (62KB - 640 downloads) BrownsvilleTXBank.jpg (45KB - 658 downloads) HamptonBeachCars.jpg (38KB - 643 downloads) OldTucsonTailfins.jpg (56KB - 640 downloads) RenoNVMirador.jpg (55KB - 679 downloads) TrinidadCOCars.jpg (56KB - 669 downloads) | ||
FinFury57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 693 Location: Kangasala, Finland | This is a good reference material for a thread we had some time ago about the fender skirts and their popularity in the forwardlook era. Going through these pictures I have not yet seen one mopar with skirts... | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | FinFury57 - 2007-09-26 3:35 AM This is a good reference material for a thread we had some time ago about the fender skirts and their popularity in the forwardlook era. Going through these pictures I have not yet seen one mopar with skirts... ????? check out that "brownsvilletxbank" pic above. clearly visible a 56 plymouth with skirts. on most cars you can't see the rear wheel openings... Edited by 1960fury 2007-09-26 9:35 AM | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | 1960fury - 2007-09-27 6:00 AM check out that "brownsvilletxbank" pic above. clearly visible a 56 plymouth with skirts. on most cars you can't see the rear wheel openings... ***************************** Good eye, Sid ! Well, there is a good example of an early FL car with skirts ! The newest car appears to be the DeSoto, so the photo may very well be dated to when that Plymouth was only a couple years old. | ||
FinFury57 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 693 Location: Kangasala, Finland | 1960fury - 2007-09-26 4:00 PM ????? check out that "brownsvilletxbank" pic above. clearly visible a 56 plymouth with skirts. on most cars you can't see the rear wheel openings... good one. | ||
vedette |
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | I don't think chickens will like this one (col1.jpg) Attachments ---------------- col1.jpg (29KB - 651 downloads) | ||
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