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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-02 2:26 PM (#603898)
Subject: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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just wondering ..... How many variations are of the 59 dodge custom royal rear door name plate molding? Is this tail end of the molding come in short and longer styles . 





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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-02 2:39 PM (#603901 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		are there variations in length (straight portion) of the tail end of the name plate moldings? I thought I've seen a drilled hole on the end of some and no holes on others.
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-10-02 4:04 PM (#603906 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: RE: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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In 1959, the Custom Royals were designated MD3-H CUSTOM ROYAL.

The cap for the Custom Royal 4dr Sedan and hardtops was PN 1909 294-5 (4 = Right, 5 = Left)

The cap for the Custom Royal 2 dr hardtops and convertibles was PN 1909 394-5 (4 = Right, 5 = Left)

The four door Custom Royal wagon caps were PN 1960 616-7 (6 = Right, 7 = left)

So they were different. I would guess that the 394/5 caps were longer than the 4 dr 294/5 caps. Not going to guess on the wagons.







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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-02 6:24 PM (#603912 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		I'm Glad you clarified all that good info . I was having trouble making out what they were talking about in the parts list book. Thanks again 56d500boy !
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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-02 7:10 PM (#603914 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		I tried to look up all these numbers with no results in my 1959 mopar parts list book with no results of these numbers . 56d500boy > what book are you using to obtain these numbers? maybe I'm not looking in the right section of the book .Thanks !
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-10-02 8:53 PM (#603917 - in reply to #603914)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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dodge59 - 2020-10-02 4:10 PM
I tried to look up all these numbers with no results in my 1959 mopar parts list book with no results of these numbers . 56d500boy > what book are you using to obtain these numbers? maybe I'm not looking in the right section of the book .


I use the pdf versions of the 55-58 Mopar Parts Catalog and the 59 Mopar Parts Catalog available for download at Mymopar.com.

For the side trim, you need to find the section in the Body section (23 in this case) so you can see the diagrams where they call out the side trim.

See below.





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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-02 9:08 PM (#603919 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		You are the "Man" ! I seen that section in my book .. just didn't click lol. Sooooooo... the difference between md3-m royal and a md3-h custom royal would be the name plate . Both should have the same overall size of molding.
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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-02 9:15 PM (#603920 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		I've been looking at the lengths of the name plate moldings on 2dr hard tops , I think the 4 doors have the longer plate molding. just trying to see which molding will fit the 59 cr 4 door hard tops . looks like 2 doors will not fit 4 doors because of length differences.
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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-02 9:20 PM (#603921 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		<p>another thing I am noticing is the "royal/ custom royal " gold name letters. there appears to be holes drilled in the molding for attachment purposes. . so they are both specific to the car . Go mopar</p><p>see first picture .</p>

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56D500boy
Posted 2020-10-02 11:29 PM (#603922 - in reply to #603921)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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dodge59 - 2020-10-02 6:15 PM
I've been looking at the lengths of the name plate moldings on 2dr hard tops , I think the 4 doors have the longer plate molding. just trying to see which molding will fit the 59 cr 4 door hard tops . looks like 2 doors will not fit 4 doors because of length differences.


Hmm...I was going to guess that the 4dr (sedan and hardtop) caps are shorter and the 2 dr hardtop caps are longer (??)

dodge59 - 2020-10-02 6:20 PM
another thing I am noticing is the "royal/ custom royal " gold name letters. there appears to be holes drilled in the molding for attachment purposes. . so they are both specific to the car . Go mopar

see first picture .



I am guessing that the 1959 Royal and Custom Royal caps start off as the same ribbed casting and then they are drilled for either the "Royal" script or the "Custom Royal Script" to create two different part numbers (plus the left and right versions). The Coronet caps are smooth and not much more.





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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-03 12:15 PM (#603938 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		what I am finding out is the royal and CR name plates are all the same in length and design as you mentioned . only difference was in adding the word badges and drilling the holes in different locations.
I counted the ribbing slots on the cr plates on 2 and 4 door models . both were the same .
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-10-03 1:45 PM (#603940 - in reply to #603938)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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dodge59 - 2020-10-03 9:15 AM what I am finding out is the royal and CR name plates are all the same in length and design as you mentioned . only difference was in adding the word badges and drilling the holes in different locations. I counted the ribbing slots on the cr plates on 2 and 4 door models . both were the same .


Be patient with me here, I am trying to track down 1959 Dodge info using my familiarity with 1956 Dodge info (not sure where it will end up):

I was going to ask whether the "Royal" on the Royal was the same length on the 59 Custom Royal. Supposedly (I was told but now I didn't believe it), the "Royal" on a 56 Dodge Royal was larger than the "Royal" on a 56 Dodge Custom Royal. But I just checked section 12-15-21 NAME PLATE (side badges) in the 55-58 Catalog and it looked like there was only one "Royal" badge PN in 1956 : 1646 488 ("Custom" was 1646 764) .

*BUT* then I checked Section 23-34-238 NAME PLATES in the 55-58 Catalog and there were two "Royal" name plates after all:

1956 4 D., D63-2 "Royal" = 1645 990

and

1956 Sp. 4 D., Sp.Cl.Cp., D63-2 (Royals) UP TO Approximate Serial No. 34988904 "Royal" = 1646 488 (Hello?)

BUT 1956 Sp. 4 D . , Sp.Cl.Cp., D63-2 (Royals) AFTER Approximate Serial No. 34988904 "Royal" = 1645 990 (We're back)

And finally, 1956 4 D., Sp. 4 D., Sp. Cl. Cp., Cv. Cp., D63-3 (Custom Royals) Royal = 1646 488 (Hello again?)



So with that exercise completed and knowing that there were two different "Royal" PNs in 1956, I tried the same process in the 1959 Catalog

First I tried to find "Royal" (and "Custom") in Section 12-15-21 NAME PLATE (Side badges) of the 59 catalog:

NO "Custom", NO "Royal" just:

Coronet, MD2-L
Texan, MTJ2
FireSweep, MSI
FireDome, MS2
FireFlite, MS3
Adventurer, MS3
Adventurer, Powered, MS3 . .
New Yorker, MC3
LeBaron, MYl
And the IMPERIAL letters.



The I tried 23-34-238 NAME PLATES in the 1959 Catalog. Nada. Not even a sniff. I might be doing something wrong *OR* because the "Custom" and "Royal" were gold plated, they were only available pre-mounted on the ribbed caps. Somebody (Serge ?) must know 59 Dodges enough to point me in the correct direction. (Sorry, I failed. I thought that I would win)








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Posted 2020-10-03 2:25 PM (#603941 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		<p>here is a royal 1909- 393</p><p>the one buy the box is 1909 392  </p>

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56D500boy
Posted 2020-10-03 2:55 PM (#603943 - in reply to #603941)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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dodge59 - 2020-10-03 11:25 AM
Here is a Royal 1909 393.The one by the box is 1909 392


Thanks. That clears up the "lost" PN for the Royal (and Custom Royal) scripts. There weren't separate PNs. You apparently had to buy the complete cap to get the scripts.

The 1909 392 (Right) and 1909 393 (Left) makes sense for an MD3-M "Royal"



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d500dodge59
Posted 2020-10-05 3:54 PM (#604033 - in reply to #603901)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate


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the pair on the picture is from a 4 door carsome of the 4 door cars have doorhandles on backdoor that are made to go over the cromeplate and hold it in possition and some cars have the 2 door crome that have a step in end and a small stainless trim that stops by the handle
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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-05 7:34 PM (#604043 - in reply to #604033)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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d500dodge59 - 2020-10-05 2:54 PM the pair on the picture is from a 4 door carsome of the 4 door cars have doorhandles on backdoor that are made to go over the cromeplate and hold it in possition and some cars have the 2 door crome that have a step in end and a small stainless trim that stops by the handle

Thanks d500dodge59 !  

would you mine taking a measurement of the total length / tip to tip of your chrome plate if you have royal or custom royal ?  or anyone else that has one.  Thanks !



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dodge59
Posted 2020-10-07 8:21 PM (#604160 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		<p>Here's a stumper again !................ trying to find these part numbers for the 59 dodge  CR rear door quarter name plates moldings . nothing is showing up in the parts book for these numbers 1963 226 RT and 1963 227 Left .  Thanks !</p>

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Posted 2020-10-08 10:25 AM (#604181 - in reply to #603898)
Subject: Re: 1959 dodge custom royal rear door name plate



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Location: Milwaukee Wisconsin		question on these name plates moldings ............ why did some have a hole drilled for a screw on the tail end and others did not ? different models ?



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