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From: "Jim Gathmann" <jim_gathmann@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2003 9:12 PM
Subject: Re: IML: Imperials and other Mopar models
> I have heard of similar differences for the 90's
> Imperials- body was a thicker metal then the other
> AC/AY's- in the case of interchangable body pannels
> (hood, fenders, etc), it appears that the parts were
> shaped out of the same machines/assembly line- they
> just sent a thicker sheet of metal through.
>
> Which makes sense- as why use the good material in the
> cheaper cars? That's a big thing I noticed about FWD
> Mopars- as the price goes up, so does the quality of
> the parts (not to say that the cheap stuff is bad-
> just not as good). My k-car was thin, rusted quickly,
> and was very hard to repair. A relatives Spirit was
> slightly better... my Dynasty even stronger.... and
> the Imperials I hear were even better then that. Guess
> that's yet an other example of how buyers got their
> money's worth when buying the Imperials- but
> interestingly, Chrysler never (?) pointed out this
> difference in material to consumers as a
> bragging/selling point.
> --- MNTwin1@xxxxxxx wrote:
> > In a message dated 5/12/2003 12:21:02 PM Pacific
> > Daylight Time,
> > mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
> >
> > > After you have that Imperial for a while you may
> > loose all interest in
> > > Dodge Chargers.
> >
> > Aaron has a point here. A couple of weeks ago, I
> > made the trip to the not so
> > local salvage yard to retrieve a pair of swivel
> > seats, one from an Imperial
> > and the other from the same year New Yorker. Let me
> > tell you, they are
> > different!
> >
> > The seats from both are as heavy as boulders. The
> > Imperial seats are leather
> > and are in decent restorable condition. Once the
> > seats were out of the cars
> > I saw that each car had a center support bracket for
> > the seat track. The
> > support in the Chrysler is bolted to the floor pan.
> > The Imperial support is
> > welded. We had to cut both floors to get the
> > supports out (not a great loss
> > since there was a lot of rust in each car!)
> >
> > It was interesting to see the very definite
> > difference in the gauge of the
> > sheet metal. The New Yorker, which is unibody, has
> > a much thinner gauge
> > metal floor. The Imperial, body on frame
> > construction, was definitely
> > thicker. No wonder these cars weigh as much as they
> > do. I would have
> > thought the unibody car would have thicker gauge
> > steel. The boy at the
> > salvage yard was thoroughly impressed with the old
> > hulk of the Imperail. We
> > talked a lot about the car and its proper place in
> > history. Can't say I
> > converted him over, but it was a pleasure to provide
> > a little education to
> > the lad.
> >
> > So when Aaron states there is a reason an Imperial
> > is better.... here is one
> > piece of evidence!
> >
> > Happy motoring!
> >
> > Dale
> > 68 Crown Coupe
> > 60 New Yorkers (not quite Imperial, but nice!)
> > 71 New Yorker
> > 78 LeBaron T&C
> > 79 New Yorker
> >
>
>
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