I'm not a chemist or anything, so please forgive any errors in terminology. I won't talk about carpeting, so we should be OK. As pain oxidizes or ages, it becomes rough. If you were to slice a portion of the car body and look at it from the side through a microscope, you'd see that the paint surface is no longer smooth, but instead jagged and rough, with the top layers of paint having been eaten away by time and corrosive elements such as the sun and junk that landed on the paint and ate away at it. So now you have this rough surface. What to do about it? You said that you used a cleaner/polish, and that the rag turned the color of the paint when you rubbed it. This is because polish works just like sandpaper, but on a MUCH finer scale. What is happening there is that the particles in the polish, or maybe even the texture of the applicator (cloth/material/pad) that is "sanding", or in this case polishing the rough paint. The old proverb is that the nail that sticks up highest is pounded down first. Looking again at your paint through the microcope, you'll see that the surface is rough with high and low spots. As you rub, it is the high spots that you are sanding/polishing off. They are broken off and razed, leaving a smoother, flatter surface. In order to polish the car efficiently and consistently, most places in the detailing industry will use a mechanical polisher, which can be either air or electrically operated. I have electrical ones and swear by the Milwaukee one. It was about $200. The polishing system from 3M that I have has 2 different pads and two different polishes. The pads have velcro and go onto a disc that spins on the end of the tool where it touches the paint. One pad is more coarse and takes a "rubbing compound" and the other one is softer and takes a finer "polishing compound". As with sandpaper, you go from coarse to fine. Some places that are particularly rough can be sanded with 1500 or 2000 grit sandpaper on a block before you polish, but you should REALLY know what you're doing before starting with that sort of thing, and only under appropriate circumstances. Polishing by machine is dangerous business. If it is done incorrectly, you can heat the paint up and burn it off, or rub too much and go right through the paint. Both horrible scenarios. Your body will have character lines that if polished the wrong way, will get rubbed raw. There are techniques to dealing with that, but that's another story. You really need to know what you're doing, and getting some practice in on not-so-important cars is a good thing. Your family and neighbors will LOVE you. Getting some instruction on how to handle the polisher is another big part of the process, and is very important. If you decide to do the car by hand, I predict that you'll get really tired, and could possibly not get as consistent a result. Unlikely that you'll rub through the paint at that rate, but horribly inefficient. This would mean not as much shine. When polishing, you are, after all, going to the least common denominator - "sanding" the paint level down so that it is all equal to the lowest spots in the surface so that the entire surface is flat and consequently shiny. Pure wax without polish is then added and it fills tiny imperfections and protects the paint. One of our longtime and earliest members, Kerry Pinkerton, wrote an exhaustive story about how to sand and polish a newly painted car (actually how to paint the whole thing start to finish!). Most of this applies to getting a used car and bringing its worn paint back as well. http://imperialclub.com/Repair/Body/Painting101/Part12.htm Take a look at Kerry's other stories on the site if you want to learn how to redo a car. You can use the ARCHIVE SEARCH button on the front page. ============ What to do with your faded, original paint 1957? If that were my car and I didn't have the skills or the tools to polish it myself with a polisher, I'd strongly consider spending money on a good detailer. Many will come out to you. Whatever happens, you should watch what they do to learn (ask lots of questions) and make certain that they don't screw up. You watching will help them stay on their toes. Lastly, let them see the car before getting a hard quote. I got a quote of $100 on my 1973, and I could tell that by 75% through the guy was really wishing he'd seen the car first, as there is so much acreage. $200-$300 for a complete detail job could make your car glisten like it just rolled off the factory floor, and the detailer can teach you how to do just enough maintenance to keep it that way for years. Kenyon Wills ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. 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