Interesting that you relate that story. I
actually had that done to an engine one time when I was a poor college
student. I was rebuilding, and while pushing the piston & rod assembly
back into the engine (which I did not remove from the car), I got a little bit
of too much in a hurry and the rod bolt made a big gouge on the journal. Enough
that I could feel metal was sticking up big-time.
I don’t remember where I found the
guy – but they came out with exactly what you describe below – it was
less expensive than pulling the engine, the crank, etc. They turned just that
one journal, so in that V8 I had 4 standard journals and one that was .010
under.
Ran like a charm for another coupla
hundred thousand miles. I won’t mention the other marque’s name,
but it was a 1961 F*rd Galaxie 500, which never let me down.
If you can find someone who does this, it
would be an option, I guess.
--Brooks in Dallas
PS: I lived in Irving at the time; this guy
was either in Irving or next door in Dallas.
PSPS: You only make that mistake ONCE,
and you learn to put fuel hose over the ends of the bolts while installing the
pistons so that that doesn’t happen. There’s another trick that
may save U on the way back together.
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Sent: Monday, August
08, 2005 11:34 AM
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Subject: Re: IML: 413 rod knock
etc
My
Father loves to tell the story of when he was a lad, in the last century. He
had an old straight eight Buick that had a rod knock. There was a fellow that
had a device that attached to the journal, while the crank was still IN the
engine, and the engine was still IN the car! It seems to me, listening to my
Dad, that it was a combination lathe/cutter/grinder. He said that they used the
starter to rotate the crank, and the device remained in position. Sounds
fantastic to me, but then, I was taught to tear down ALL parts of a knocking
engine, mic everything, grind, resize, rebuild rods, etc.
David C. Wilker Jr.
United States Air Force, Retired
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday,
August 08, 2005 9:25 AM
Subject: RE: IML:
413 rod knock etc
I thought you might want to hear this.
on a small block engine I had owned the wet oil line
going to the guage had broken and caused the engine to run out of oil, and
caused the number 3 rod to spin a bearing.
I repaired the engine while it was still in the car,
wasn't to much trouble.
I went to the autoparts store and bought 3 different
sets of bearings to help save myself extra trips back and forth, I bought
standard , .010 , .020 bearings and several plastigauge . my uncle polished the
main and rod journels for me as his hands would fit up inside the block better.
after we used the plasticgauge to we used both the standard and the .010
bearings we also replaced the oil pump and installed new oil line to the oil
pressure guage. the engine ran for years after that.
by the way , you will need a good pair of goggles to
keep trash out of you'r eyes, the job would have went much better if i had used
them at first.
Kenyon Wills
<imperialist1960@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
--- Brooks Harkey wrote:
> Kenyon,
>
> If you're going to go the route you're planning to
> go, you've GOT to change
> those 2 rods.
OK. Will do that. They are both really messy.
I am planning to do the other rod bolts/bearings at
the same time. Steve suggested looking at the cam
bearings, but unless the others are a problem will
likely leave that alone and hope for the best.
Will look at the main bearings but not planning on
doing them unless there is obvious reason. I
"believe" that the car was operated without load on
the failed parts and that there isn't metal shavings
contaminating the entire system, but will look anyway.
Sump was very clean and the bearings appear to have
been smeared around on the crank but are still whole
and not fragmented. I think ! I may have gotten off
light, but will wait to see.
I will use the advice given gratefully. The men's
belt as a sandpaper/emerycloth pull tool, replacing
the conrods, and so forth are all super ideas.
I'll take photos and document it all and put it up
later for everyone to see. Can't gaurantee that I'll
have a camera in the car if it breaks down on me
later, but if I do it right that hopefully won't be
part of the story.
-Kenyon
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