Re: IML: How much Marvel?

[<dansgarage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Chris.....yeah, I guess you're right, 50K certainly isn't a NEW motor. Actually, I don't know what amount of miles were on the Imperial when the motor was replaced with a rebuilt, slightly-cam'd 1971 Imperial motor. Two owners before me did that work. I have only about 600 miles on it since this past Thanksgiving weekend when I drove the car from San Fran to here in Beaumont, CA. The previous owner has the car for about 5 years so its probably less than 50K but almost certainly was well broken in by the guy I bought it from (he likes to go 100+ in the car whenever he could!). 
I remember Rizlone also fram back when I was LOTS younger! Never thought about using it in the Imperial though. If I remember right, someone told me long time back that the 'active' ingredient in Marvel oil was kerosene, which, (if true) would make sense since it cleans motors/parts/etc so well!
Good point about using the MMO in the gas tank BUT making sure to change the fuel filter not long afterwards. I am going to do just that!
(wonder how much that old Rizlone thermometer would go for if you put it on EBAY, these days???...thought if its from your Dad i am sure you will have it for a longgggggggg time yet!!)
...by the way, do yu know if you can ( if you SHOULD!!) add MMO if you are using synthetic oil in the motor???
...thanks again for the reply!!
Dan Melnik

---- Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 

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Hi Dan,

While I'm a Rislone guy (one quart per oil change...my grandfather used it,
my old-timer mechanic endorsed it, and I even have my pop's big old Rislone
display thermometer from his garage hanging in my house...scientific, no?!),
I'm not anti-Marvel. Doesn't it say on the container how much to add to oil,
fuel, etc.?

By the way, did you say 50,000? Fifty? That's not a recent rebuild unless
you drive the Space Shuttle. That's a fully broken-in engine, even ready for
high-mileage oil again though it's in the prime of its life.

You can use MMO at every oil change in the crankcase, and on occasional
fill-ups at the gas station. If you haven't put an additive in the fuel for
a while, I'd consider replacing the fuel filter one tankful later, since any
additive tends to de-gunk the fuel tank and lines, and all that stuff will
(hopefully) end up in the filter...

Chris in LA
67 Crown
78 NYB Salon



On 6/27/06 10:36 PM, dansgarage@xxxxxxxxxxxx at dansgarage@xxxxxxxxxxxx
wrote:

> Hi All...regarding the adding of Marvel oil as a lubricant for the
> motor....does this ONLY apply if the motor has sat for a long time?..what, if
> anything, would it provide for a recently rebuilt motor (menaing with less
> than 50,000 miles since the rebuild)...also, just HOW MUCH Marvel does one add
> when adding to a motor or as a gas additive?
> Thanks all!!!
> Dan Melnik
> 
> 
> ---- ajl <alacaria@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> =============
> 
> Marvel is the best for oil and gas it gas been around for years and unlike
> all the other new additives that come out, you will not see it in a few
> years in the clearance bin.
> 
> 
> At 09:15 AM 6/27/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>> My intuitive brain can't address the accuracy of the numbers here, but I
>> have done the same thing with success. In particular, after getting my '55
>> Imperial running after its long sleep (1965 through 1997) I used this
>> product as an additive in the gas and oil over an extended period and
>> noticed a big improvment in oil/gas consumption, as well as smoothness and
>> power.
>> 
>> I have also used minimal amounts of ATF (Dextron) in both gas and oil, at
>> the suggestion of a stock car racer pal, and believed that it helped quiet
>> down noisy (but not very loud to begin with) lifters. It is an excellent
>> lubricant and also acts as a detergent to dislodge "engine crud" from the
>> inside of the crank case. It is safer and more gradual than so called
>> "engine cleaners". If an engine is believed to have an internal build up
>> problem, the best way to deal with it is to remove the oil pan and
>> actually clean it out, rather than rely on a can of anything.
>> 
>> Paul W.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: paul knisely <thestocksguy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:41:26 -0700
>> Subject: IML: Additives
>> 
>> My machinist uses Marvel Mystery oil for a gas mix, and I had the pleasure
>> of seeing the strip-down, and I bore miked the six holes - all had 3.5-4.5
>> bore wear - deep, shallow, 90 degree - and then he told me it was almost
>> twelve years since he rebuilt it and had covered 133,000 miles. I asked
>> him why the pistons weren't pounded out (the way he drives !), and the
>> rings still retained their .02" end gaps. He popped the trunk where the
>> engine periphery was, and pulled out a can of MARVEL, told me the periodic
>> maintainance it had satisfied, because we do not have an upper cylinder
>> lubricant anymore.
>>                                                            Paul T.
>> Knisely (Seattle)
>> From: randalpark@xxxxxxx
>> Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: IML: Additives
>> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:47:18 -0400
>> 
>> When I was driving my Imperials as everyday cars through the middle 1980's
>> I used an additive called Instead of Lead by Bardhal. Since then, I don't
>> use anything but Premium Unleaded fuel. The cars are driven occassionally
>> on combined city/country 40 trips mixing speeds of 50 through 75mph. I
>> haven't seen any ill effects. If I was running them frequently on long
>> distance, high speed trips, I would probably use an additive. I have heard
>> that valve wear will occur after about 70,000 miles. At that point I am
>> thinking it wouldn't hurt to do a valve job anyway, and while I'm at it,
>> do it right with hardened valves and valve seats.
>> 
>> Paul W.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: YBSHORE@xxxxxxx
>> To: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cc: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:37:03 EDT
>> Subject: IML: Additives
>> 
>> Peoples,
>> 
>>     Is it best to run a lead additive and 93 octane or is there a better
>> combo.
>> 
>> Jack
>> 
>> 1956 Imperial Sedan w/354 and three speed Torqueflight
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