RE: IML: 1960 2 door for sale cheap!

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Dick, I can appreciate, COMPLETELY what your saying. A few years back, I went to BUY, the "Cleanest Dodge( 84) Crew Cab Dually, in the state of Florida". A quote, from the Truck Trader add I read.After driving 3hrs. We parked next to the truck, looked at this treasure, never getting out, and then drove home. I don't think the $50.paint job was dry yet! I guess, we've all been there. Buyer Beware. Ya'll have a nice day, Dave.  P.S. Still haven't found the Cleanest Crew Cab Dually.

 

> -------------- Original message -------------- 
> From: "Dick Benjamin" <dickb@xxxxxxxxx> 
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> > I'm sure this is not news to a lot in the old car hobby, but the meaning of 
> > certain words is totally different back in the rust belt (basically east of 
> > the Rockies, in my opinion, but don't argue with me, please). I grew up on 
> > the east coast, and spent quite a bit of time in Missouri and Illinois, so I 
> > know a bit about this. 
> > 
> > When someone from the rust belt says his car has "NO RUST!" he means that 
> > there are no visible holes in the body that you can see on first inspection. 
> > He does not mean what someone from the southwest means when he says no rust 
> > (namely, that means that there is no rust - anywhere, and never was). The 
> > rust belt car may have been previously "repaired" (and you can only imagine 
> > what that involved - I've seen newspaper stuffed into holes, then plastered 
> > over with bondo, then painted nicely, good looking until you hit the first 
> > bad pothole). The rust may be only in the floor boards, or only on the 
> > frame rails up over the rear wheels etc. I once worked on a convertible 
> > from Florida that was a "Guaranteed no rust car" which calved off a large 
> > chunk of bondo from behind the rear wheel as I drove it up my driveway, and 
> > upon inspection turned out to be just about ready to shed the whole last 3 
> > feet of the car - the frame was rusted down to almost nothing left over the 
> > rear axle kickup. You could grab the rear bumper and by lifting and pushing 
> > down, you could see the gap between the trunk lid and the rear body panel 
> > open and close from the frame flexing! 
> > 
> > I bought a 1954 Packard out of Madison Wisconsin that looked really good in 
> > pictures - ori
> ginal owner, low mileage (69K), no rust showing, original 
> > paint, no body damage showing - no sign of any problems, until I loaded it 
> > on my trailer to bring it home. The front seat fell partly through the 
> > floor onto the deck of my trailer. By the time I got it home to California, 
> > the frame had broken right in the middle of the car - I had to take it off 
> > the trailer with my forklift. I harvested the engine/trans and factory AC 
> > unit, and took the rest to the crusher - nothing savable! 
> > 
> > I have a friend who owns a wrecking yard in Missouri, and I've spent quite a 
> > bit of time back there helping him sort and inventory what he has - most of 
> > the cars in his yard are from the 80 and 90s now, and they are almost all in 
> > there because of serious structural rust. Wrecks are only maybe 10% of his 
> > stock. Most of the pickup trucks are broken in half just behind the cab. 
> > The cars from 
> the older years (he has stuff going back into the 30s) is 
> > generally more sturdy, but even those are beyond anyone putting back on the 
> > road again - ever! 
> > 
> > So the bottom line is, don't buy a car based on what the seller says - 
> > demand either a personal inspection, or get many, many detailed pictures of 
> > every aspect of the car, including under the carpets, the chassis, and 
> > especially the structural parts. If a car is claimed to be a "southwestern 
> > car", demand proof covering the car's whole life before you accept that 
> > statement. 
> > 
> > Dick Benjamin 
> > 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kenyon Wills 
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 10:33 PM 
> > To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > Subject: Re: IML: 1960 2 door for sale cheap! 
> > 
> > The GREAT
>  car that I bought from Iowa was so rotted 
> > out that it made me cry. Seller meant well and sold 
> > against his wishes due to wife pressure, but the thing 
> > was rotten 6 different ways. Guy said it was GREAT 
> > and that he was certain that it was a resto candidate 
> > for certain. 
> > 
> > I feel otherwise. 
> > 
> > You can't fix what isn't there. Stuff that's rotted 
> > is effectively not there. Caveat Emptor. My 1960 
> > Iowa car is now my parts car, with the swivel seat 
> > frames and complete engine core being the highlights. 
> > I had to buy a shell locally (thanks Henry!) to get 
> > away from the rot. 
> > 
> > -K 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- HavADope@xxxxxxx wrote: 
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> > > Actually if you click on the picture you can see all 
> > > the typical rust spots. 
> > > The front of the hood, the bottom of the front 
> > > fenders and the bottom of the 
> > > doors. Most likely the rear fender wells. Take it 
> > > from me- It's a 
> > > handfull.... 
> > > Been There-started to do it and changed my 
> > > mind-ended up buy a good shell 
> > > from Kenyon. 
> > > Thanks Kenyon!!!:-) 
> > > Marc 
> > > 1960 4drht 
> > > 
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> > > 
> > > Beware of cars from Iowa, they salt the roads and 
> > > the cars are usually 
> > > pretty rusty!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
> > > 
> > > Dennis 
> > > 68 Omaha Orange FB 360 
> > > 67 Imperial Titanic 4 door sedan 
> > > 64 Dodge 880 land yacht w 413 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: _stephen dilley_ 
> > > (mailto:stephendilley@xxxxxxx) 
> > > To: _mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > (mailto:mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2006 11:41 AM 
> > > Subject: RE: IML: 1960 2 door for sale cheap! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > that is one very cheap 1960 !!! although interior is 
> > > unknown ? or if she 
> > > runs ok ? 
> > > still a bargain car ... should be had quick before 
> > > a devil grabs it ! 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > best wishes, steve. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ____________________________________ 
> > > From: _canafornia@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > (mailto:canafornia@xxxxxxxxxxxx) 
> > > To: _mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> > > (mailto:mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) 
> > > Subject: Re: IML: 1960 2 door for sale cheap! 
> > > Date: Sat, 2 Dec 2006 09:11:50 -0500 
> > > 
> > > I was looking for something else and came across a 
> > > 1960 Imperial 2 door for 
> > > sale in Iowa for $1995.00 !!...looks like a nice 
> > > base car!..If 
> I had the 
> > > funds available ad the time I would definetely look 
> > > into this one, but 
> > > unfortunately my plate is very full right now and 
> > > my bank account is very empty! ;-) So 
> > > I figured I would mention it to the group in case 
> > > someone else is looking 
> > > for a good project, before some crazy demoderby nut 
> > > gets his hands on it and 
> > > destroys another good restorable Imp..especially a 
> > > rare 2 door!........the site 
> > > I found it on is coyoteclassics.com , just scroll 
> > > through the pages and 
> > > you'll see it, it's a flat black one... 
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