OK people, answer this question--in the last 20 years, how many of you have been in an accident that made use of the fact that more mass beats less mass; i.e. where the small mass occupants went to the hospital, but large mass occupants didn't? Just visible damage or cost of repairs is meaningless. If you run your 0 MPH headlights into someone elses 2 1/2 MPH rear bumper, it is going to peel the sheetmetal and plastice back until it finds something solid, like the block to slow it down. If you got it with your plastic bumper and the stuff that is behind it, then the damage stops pretty quick, unless you were still moving at a serious clip when you hit him. How about this one--Anti-lock brakes are supposed to be a fantastic safety feature. Name the last 3 times you came to a locked wheel stop, or seriously used the anti-lock brakes. I don't mean you were stopping with a little gravel or ice on the road, and they cut in for a pump or two, I mean really stood up and panic stopped, where the pedal was kicking back at you big time, or you heard serious tire noise. Just taking the raw population figures and dividing by the number of traffic deaths, your number comes up once every 7145 or so years. Obviously, there is something else killing us. By the way, that statistic is not just cars, trucks, busses, motorcycles--it is all forms of land transportation except railroads---including pedestrians, bicycles, toys, horse drawn conveyances, off road equipment like farm and construction machinery, and off road RVs too. Since our newest Imperial is over 20 years old, it is pretty safe to say that none of them have ever been in an accident where the shear mass saved anyone's life, let alone what ever safety design was incorporated into them. Unless it is a current model, when you deform them like that, the cost of repair exceeds the cost of replacement, and they go to the bone yard. Few of us are likely to find out whether we are safer in an old Imperial or a newer car, because we don't drive that way. That is why our insurance rates are relatively cheap. Insurance is to protect your assets from somebody else's lawyer. ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm