Re: IML: 67 LeBaron brakes

["Frederick Joslin" <fljoslin@xxxxxxxx>]

In my 69 LeBaron with the Budd brakes I would say that the pedal feel is mushy and the pedal is too close to the floor.

However, the brakes seem to work fine and much better than the same era drum brake in my opinion. 

 

How do you restrict the vacuum to the brake booster?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christopher H"
To: "IML (main)"
Subject: Re: IML: 67 LeBaron brakes
Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 05:51:24 -0800


The brakes on my 67 Crown have always been reassuringly firm for a 1960s
American luxury car. I've always thought they have great feel and are easy
to modulate, and would never think to describe them as numb and light or
touchy. The pedal is almost a little higher than I'd expect.

But maybe there is some variation among 40yo cars, depending on their usage
and service history. Mine also had the Budd calipers replaced with later
Chrysler single-pistons long before I bought it (and I bought it 18 years
ago), so maybe that makes mine an odd man out.

I've also never thought my power steering was numb and light! Have you ever
driven a 1970s F*rd? The Imperial is direct and smooth, even if I can drive
with my pinky... Maybe your steering box needs adjustment (is there free
play?).

Just my $0.04 (two subjects, twice the price)...

Chris in LA
67 Crown
78 NYB Salon


On 1/15/07 7:22 PM, Mike Pittinaro at mechimike@xxxxxxxxx wrote:

> My 67 Crown Coupe brake pedal goes very low, too, but
> the brakes seem to work just fine. I've actually put
> a restrictor in the booster vacuum tube to give the
> brakes a little more "feel". Perhaps, like the power
> steering, they were meant to be numb and light.
>
> In my 69 Newport with power drum brakes, on the other
> hand, the slightest touch of the brake pedal begins
> slowing that 4000 pound behemoth in more of a hurry
> than I ever thought 4 wheel drum brakes ever had a
> right to!
>
> --Mike
>
> --- MIKE CINDY BECKER wrote:
>
>> Hi Nick, After thinking about it while I drive, mine seems to
>> be low too, might be the way it's designed.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From:
>> nicholasadamo@xxxxxxx
>> To:
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>> Sent: Sunday, December 31, 2006 3:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: IML: 67 LeBaron brakes
>>
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> I have an important question for you. I have a 67
>> Chrysler 300 with the Budd disc brakes. When I got
>> the car, both calipers were leaking and the pedal
>> was very close to the floor on full brake
>> application. After my mechanic replaced the calipers
>> and adjusted the rear brakes, the pedal was still
>> too low! He claimed it felt; "about right" to him. A
>> couple a months later I took the car to him again to
>> have him do some more work done. I asked him to go
>> thru the brake system again, bleeding out all the
>> old brake fluid and replacing it. When I got the car
>> back, the pedal was the SAME! I've been driving it
>> like this for a year now. The calipers aren't
>> leaking anymore and the car does stop effectively. I
>> usually leave a WIDE margin for error just in case.
>>
>> IS your pedal low???
>>
>> The mechanic has the car again now. He's having
>> the engine, and tranny overhauled and most of the
>> suspension parts replaced. I got the Budd rotors
>> from the DuraBrake reproduction and I got a new set
>> of pads. I'm having him install these with the added
>> instruction of replacing ANYTHING that may be
>> causing the low brake pedal. Any thoughts??
>>
>> Nick
>
>
>
>
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