Ongoing saga continues...I know that there have been 1960 Silvercrest Landau cars that had the panels spot welded, and other cars that were not. I assumed, incorrectly, that this was due to whether the option had been installed at the factory or after market. I have been notified that there are LeBarons without the spot welds. Since Silvercrest Landau was standard on LeBarons, they must have come from the factory without the spot welds.
So then, why are some cars spot welded and not others? Was this an early production/late production change? Again, my father and I had three Crown Sedans apart in wrecking yards that had them spot welded. We have a pair that we spent hours removing uselessly since breaking the spot welds destroyed the panels. If my dad still has them, I'll take pictures and send them on.
Paul W. -----Original Message----- From: randalpark@xxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 8:00 AM Subject: Re: IML: Stainless steel top a 60 impI have reviewed the 1960 sales literature. It states that the Silvercreast Landau Roof option is available for Custom and Crown models. It says nothing about this option not being available on the Southampton Two Door. That would indicate to me that it was available. It also may validate that my memory of the fabulous Maroon Crown Southampton Two Door that I admired over 40 years ago may have had the stainless steel inserts as I remember it.
Paul W. -----Original Message----- From: randalpark@xxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wed, 28 Mar 2007 4:09 AM Subject: Re: IML: Stainless steel top a 60 impYou may be correct about the panels not being available for Southampton Two Door, the cars I remember were from about 45 years ago.
The only panels that are not spot welded in place on 1960 Four Door cars are those that were added at the dealer. I have three of these apart and they were definitely spot welded when installed at the factory, about 150 welds per side.
Paul W. -----Original Message----- From: jsadowski@xxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 6:52 PM Subject: Re: IML: Stainless steel top a 60 impI'm certain they didn't make them for 2 doors. Also, there are no spot welds holding the panels to the roof. There is a lip on the edges of the panel that slide under the trim molding. There are also a few dabs of adhesive in the middle of them.
John ----- Original Message ----- From: <randalpark@xxxxxxx> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 3:40 AM Subject: Re: IML: Stainless steel top a 60 imp
back > in the '60s. One of them was a silver Crown Southampton Two Door with a > red leather interior, so the silver paint could have fooled me. I was > probably 10 years old and about 3 and a half feet tallAre you sure about that?I am about 90% certain that I have seen one or two in my life time,
leather > interior. Also, when I was around 10, but I was riding my 26 inch bicycle > around it. Add that to my meager height and I should have been able to see > those panels pretty well. Even if the other car had painted panels, I have > always believe this one to be the real McCoy. I think even at 10 if they > were painted I would have spotted the differenceThe other one was a Maroon Crown Two Door Southampton with a white
slim. > The ones that were installed on the cars at the factory were spot welded > to the roof. I mean like 200 spot welds each! Removal without damage is > practically impossible. A few cars could have had the installation at > dealer level, which would mean that they would be most likely held down > with the trim pieces. Even on the factory cars, this would have been > sufficient considering how the cars are made.If they did make them, chances of finding a set now would be pretty
Another fading memory, which may be something that could be cleared
up in > the 1960 sales brochure available on the OIC web site.
could > get creative with a 4 door set & make them fit. Actually, I bought a set > with that in mind, but I ended up getting a Custom 4 door & put them on > that car instead.Paul W. -----Original Message----- From: jsadowski@xxxxxxx To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 26 Mar 2007 7:17 PM Subject: Re: IML: Stainless steel top a 60 impThey didn't make the stainless inserts for a 2 door. You probably
John ----- Original Message ----- From: James L BURTON To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 12:16 PM Subject: IML: Stainless steel top a 60 impAre there any stainless top inserts for a 60 imperial 2drhdtp ? Also
Im > looking for an ignition switch with keys. Thanks Jim
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