I like it when others think like I do and just have a better way
of wording it.
Ken
67 Crown 4 Dr Ht
68 LeBaron 4 Dr Ht
From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew A.
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 4:34 PM
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IML: Dealer won't work on a '90s Imperial
All
right, I've been trying to keep quiet when I saw this subject come up a few
days ago, as it's one of my biggest pet peaves, but I keep seeing comments on
it and I just can't hold it in any longer!..So excuse me while I rant a little
to get it off my chest so that I can sleep better tonight! ;-)
It's
called "planned obsolescence" and it's the Multi-national
Manufacturing industry's best invention. It's purpose it to re-sell us the same
product over and over again just as you have finished paying for it..They know
exactly how many times a part can go through it's duty cycle and then break,
they have it down to a absolute science. Gone are the days that things were
built to last. Now they are built to last just beyond the warranty!..And the
worst part is that they have convinced the public through relentless marketing
ploys, that this is absolutely normal! They have convinced us that after a
certain number of years, their product is no longer reliable and in fact could
be dangerous!!.So you better go out and buy a new one! And we have accepted
this!!!...Look at refrigerators: they are good for about 7-10 years..Well in my
house I have 3 refrigerators and they are a 1948 Philco (painted black with
flames for my "liquid refreshments"), 1954 Westinghouse and a 1949
Philco...All of them work perfectly and have NEVER been serviced!...So don't
tell me they can't make a refrigerator that can last 50 years!.They used to do
it over 50 years ago! It's that they don't WANT to!.it would be bad for
business to only sell you one every 50 years!...Cars are the same, after 10
years they don't want to service them so that you don't feel that you will have
any support if you break down anywhere, all of a sudden it doesn't feel
reliable anymore, you feel unsafe, so you might as well buy a new one to feel
reliable again. And if you ask the average Joe, they will just say that
"that's just the way it is"..Well think about it: Aren't you angry
that you spend $50,000 on a product and it is obsolete and unreliable after
only 10 years, and the dealer doesn't even want to service it anymore??.I know
it makes me mad and that's why I refuse to buy into their marketing and I don't
buy anything "new"!!!...I broke down and bought a new home Stereo
system 10 years ago that blew up on me 4 years later!...I refused to buy
another new one. Instead I had my old faithfull Tecnics system from the 1970's
repaired for $125 and have been listening to it everyday since then without a
hitch.My Kitchen stove is a 1951 Moffat electric that not only works but the
back panel looks like the dash of a 50's Imperial ( <---Imperial content
here), which gives me pleasure everytime I look at it!...My fridges are old and
my everyday summer car is a 1969 Olds, (winter time I drive a $1000
scrapper)...I have a 1923 Band saw and a 1930's drill press which all work
flawlessly...So long live the old solid technology and I say to the New product
manufacturers: "In your face!"
Whew!...now
I feel better! ;-)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 11,
2007 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: IML: Dealer
won't work on a '90s Imperial
On the contrary, modern cars are the ones that are disposable. You get
it new and it's got lots of features, which is nice, but once things start to
fall apart or you get in a little fender-bender, the cost of repairs is too
high and there are so many specialized parts and computer modules that
suppliers stop producing them sooner than they would have in the past b/c it's
not cost effective, so you may not even be able to get the parts to fix
it...
So it's just easier and cheaper to go out and buy a new car, which is just
fine with the automakers and the dealerships. And since they know
this, well then, why should they bother building a product to last 10 or 20
years, when they know you'll trade it in in 3?
I'd say mid 90's was the point where cars stopped being serviceable enough
that you could keep repairing them and putting them back on the road, to where
they started becoming disposable.
From: jrgrestini@xxxxxxx
Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IML: Dealer won't work on a '90s Imperial
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 08:47:28 -0400
I was in Daytona Beach Florida last year had a problem with my security system
not shuting off.The dealer told me that these cars are throw away cars. I stay
in the parking lot about 2 hours finally was able to fix it
myself. John
-----Original
Message-----
From:
Tony Dzik <folkbluesman@xxxxxxxxx>
To:
mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent:
Mon, 9 Jul 2007 4:19 pm
Subject:
Re: IML: Dealer won't work on a '90s Imperial
Last
winter our local Toyota dealer did an il change on my 86 Gran Fury. All they
asked was that I bring in a filter. Also said they'd do most work on it if I
brought in the parts.
Jeffrey
Fastov <jfastov@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
need
dealer help on a 66( other brand) and the dealer said they don't work on cars
that old.
-----
Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, July 09,
2007 2:24 PM
Subject: Re: IML: Dealer
won't work on a '90s Imperial
Dave,
don't feel alone. Years ago my Dad had his 77 Dodge Van TOWED to the local
Dodge Dealer, and was told the same thing, since it was an ignition problem
every component, if replaced was maybe $200. He had to then tow to a small
independant shop.This was in Detroit no less. Dave.
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Original message --------------
From:
David Whitney <hazegreen66@xxxxxxxxx>
Went
to a five-star dealer in Richmond, Calif., over the weekend with an electrical
problem and was firmly told they do not do any work on cars more than 15 years
old. The rest of the conversation is immaterial, the service writer was
adamant and told me this after emerging from the servive manager's
office. Does this mean we're all officially "orphaned" by
Chrysler China?
Happy
motoring,
David
'91
K-Imperial driver 200,000 miles
'66
LeBaron dual air and every option known to man
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