may ship to you.The price is reasonable since most places are more
expensive than Wal-Mart.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob van der Es"
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car Storage
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:27:25 +0200

Hello Fred, Thanks for the useful info! I guess the tank capacity of a
1960 Imperial is 23 gallons, so I might be in for the large can..Now lets
find out how I can get it here... It doesn't look that hazardous to me,
and I won't be more flammable then a container with odorant I think..So I
don't see a problem why I cant be send by USPS priority mail, ofcourse
packed in a strong box.It might be better however that it only contains a
car " maintance" product.Without any further details ofcourse :) It would
be great to prepare my car for the winter the right way this time :)I
hope I can work something out to get me a tin of this stuff! Thanks,
Robert
----- Original Message ----- From: Frederick JoslinTo:
mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:53
PMSubject: Re: IML: Winter Car Storage
Sta-Bil is a gas additive which helps reduce gas degradation over
time.You need something like 1 oz StaBil / gallon of gas. Not sure. I
usually add a little more that is suggested for an extra safety
margin. I need to get my winter bottle soon.I usually have the tank
mostly empty with enough gas to get through the monthly winter engine
warm ups. Sta-Bil It is available in small plastic bottles from about
4 oz to 1 quart. Local Wal-Marts have it in 32 oz (quart) bottle for
about $9.I am not sure how flammable or hazardous it is?
http://www.thefarm.org/charities/i4at/surv/sta-bil.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob van der Es"
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car Storage
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 12:01:17 +0200

Sorry Fred, But what is Stabil exactly for kind of stuff?When is it
necessary to add it to your fuel?And another maybe trivial question, do
you store your car for the winter with an empty fuel tank or completely
filled up to the fuel cap? I have choosen for the last option for the
last two winters, cause I am afraid that an empty fuel tank will corrode
inside... I haven't add any special mystery stuff like Stabil to the
fuel, and the car fired right up after 5 months of storage!I use always
Shell V-Power fuel in my car and had no problems with storage for over 6
months, but maybe I am trying my luck here ? Robert
----- Original Message ----- From: Frederick JoslinTo:
mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 4:23
AMSubject: Re: IML: Winter Car Storage
I live in Eastern WA where the winters are a little more "normal".I
put up one of the carport tents from Costco on several inches of
gravel. I also have a sheet of clear poly over the car which is kept
off the car by judicious use of 2x4.The poly is needed because there
is plenty of condensation dropping from the roof. I have had no
rodent problems, but I do have a dog that can get to the car.I
certainly like this set up much more than outside storage. The
biggest problem is that the carport is 10' x 20' so the 69 LeBaron
only just fits! I run my car about once a month get it good and warm
and roll it back and forward about 6' and use Stabil (sp) in the
fuel.
----- Original Message -----
From: randalpark@xxxxxxx
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car Storage
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:25:03 -0400
Jack's solution here is ideal.
Most of mine are in garages with concrete
floors as well, but a couple of them are
relegated to the carports. Here in Washington
State our winters are mild enough that things
don't get too bad. Keeping the cars running and
moving them around is the best answer for the
ones that don't get to spend the winter in an
actual garage. When possible, they should all
be driven at least once a month.
Some one commented on the collection of water
on top of the tarp, and then condensing under
the car. This has also happened to me. I just
don't think that for my area, tarps are very
good for protecting against much of anything.
They tend to cause as many problems as they
prevent. Truly, the cars need to either be
properly stored indoors, with no gas, and if
possible raised up off the floor, or they
should be driven to keep things warmed up and
moving around.
Paul W.
-----Original Message-----
From: YBSHORE@xxxxxxx
To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: IML: Winter Car Storage
In a message dated 9/25/2007 4:41:32 P.M.
Eastern Daylight Time, randalpark@xxxxxxx
writes:
Last year I put a tarp underneath one of my cars, parked in a car
port.
Gradually, the hood insulation pad began to disappear. In the
spring
when I removed the tarp from under the car, I found it, along
with two
giant brown rats. I won't be doing that again. I'll just have to
move
the cars around more often and try to drive them occasionally to
keep
them dry.
Paul W.
Imperialist Paul, et al:
I am fortunate enough to have dry,
concrete floor barn [unheated except for an
isolated shop at the rear] that I store my
cars in and, I found that the concrete has a
breathing factor as well -although I start and
'rotate' the cars around on nicer winter days
here in New England, just as a matter of course
--I have wondered about concrete-to-tire
issues, and not just flat spots-- though I do
not leave the cars in one place long enough
for that to happen, generally.....anyway,
though inside, I lessened my moisture/mold
concerns a few years ago by going to the local
Lowe's and for 5 bucks a sheet for 7/16
sheathing, I layed the 4 X 8 sheets out on the
barn floor butt to butt and in conjunction with
a GOOD cover, I have been able to
stay unscathed and the cars remain turnkey
all winter, and as fresh as when I 'rested
them' for the season....just the old .02 from
gorgeous New England today where the 80+ degree
weather has been very good to the '56 Imperial
and her touring....and thank you, too, WPC as
well as Mr. Exner, for I NEVER tire of looking
at her....
Jack
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