Re: IML: Harmonic Balancer

[<mopar413@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

If the timing marks are changing all the time it may no be the balancer.  Most likely the timing chain.  Won't hurt to change the balancer tho.
---- Rob van der Es <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Ok, back to square one:)
> I want to pull the harmonic balancer for two reasons:
> 
> a) The timingmarks are changing all the time on the old one, that means that 
> the rubber has detoriated over the years and that the outer ring slips...
> b) I want to replace the timingchain, I don't know how long the old one is 
> in use (cause I don't know the maintainace history of the car), but I can 
> hear that it is making noise (checked it with a stethoscope)
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "PAUL WENTINK" <randalpark@xxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: Harmonic Balancer
> 
> 
> Let's go back to square one. Why do you want to remove this?
> 
> Paul W.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob van der Es <r.vdes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:01 am
> Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> 
> 
> You might have a point here Rob!
> Same thing crossed my mind, but I was more thinking of breaking the
> head of the crankshaft bolt..
> Leaving the remaining piece of the bolt flush with the
> crankshaft....oughhhh!!!
> 
> Any thoughts, anyone? How is risky is that starter motor trick
> actually??
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Robert
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Kidd" <rlkidd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> 
> Sounds easy enough. BUT, what if the bolt was siezed in
> the crankshaft tighter than normal and you would shear a
> tooth on the starter or the ring gear since the engine
> would not normally turn over freely from a dead stop?
> Remember, 48+ year old "worn" parts you are dealing with.
> I'd try the impact route on the bolt if possible. Rob Kidd
> 61/65
> 
> On Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:35:32 -0600
> "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Sounds a little scary to me but if you do it this way, I'd certainly 
> >disconnect the coil wire to make absolutely no way the engine would 
> >accidently start with the breaker bar in place. Stevan Miner Miner Auto 
> >Service Winnebago, MN
> >-------------------------------------------------- 
> >From: <mopar413@xxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:21 PM To: 
> ><mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "Dave Wilker" 
> ><wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color
> >> Dave has the right idea. Just do like he says and make
> >sure the socket is
> >> on right. Workd every time. for me. ---- Dave Wilker 
> >> <wilkerbeast01@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>> I have a trick. I place the proper size socket on the
> >harmonic balancer
> >>> bolt, with appropriate extensions, and a good stout
> >breaker bar. I turn
> >>> the crank carefully until the breaker bar is resting on
> >the left frame
> >>> rail (driver's side). Once all the tools are firmly in
> >place, I bump the
> >>> starter. Just a bump. This breaks the bolt loose so you
> >can remove it
> >>> easily. Be careful when doing this. Make sure the
> >socket is all the way
> >>> on and there is no slack in the setup. David C. Wilker Jr. USAF 
> >>> (RET) ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Rob van der Es To: 
> >>> mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:22 AM 
> >>> Subject: Re: IML: 59 413 engine color Hi David, And, btw, do you have a 
> >>> good trick to remove that
> >bolt that keeps the
> >>> harmonic balancer on the crankshaft? I am in progress of replacing the 
> >>> timing chain of my
> >engine, but are a
> >>> little afraid to start cause everyone told me that this bolt is very 
> >>> hard to remove.. Especially with the engine in the car, ofcourse I
> >don't want to remove
> >>> the engine for a relative "simple" job like replacing
> >the timing chain!!
> >>>
> >>> Robert
> >>
> >>
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