Here is one that I can't still figure out on this same Thread of discussing models. Why was a car called "Chrysler Newport Imperial" when a Chrysler Imperial was still in productions back in the 70's? -Anthony >From: Christopher H <imperial67@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Date: 2008/02/10 Sun AM 09:55:16 CST >To: "IML (main)" <mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: Re: IML: Ranking of models and packages >With all due respect to Roger's enthusiasm for owning the top trim level of >Imperial, I feel some clarifications are needed in the interest of not >revising history. > >The LeBaron name, like Fleetwood for Cadillac, has a grand history and comes >from that of a coachbuilder from the earlier part of the century that was >purchased by (and ultimately dissolved into) Chrysler Corporation (as GM did >with Fleetwood). The image of the name was deemed suitable for their finest >product, and the clever folks at Chrysler Corp marketing even went so far as >to use the word "Coachwork" on the badges on the car. (Which I don't think >are real gold, are they???) > >While dealers might not have ordered many LeBarons for the lot (as with any >top trim level), there was nothing to prevent them from doing so... and it >is entirely possible to buy a LeBaron that was not custom-ordered by your >royal self, the 1960s luxury car customer. But because many of these >customers were the type who would want exactly the car they desired, and >because dealers would be smart not to pay inventory costs on a few examples >of the most expensive car in their lineup on their lot, it was less common >to find one in stock. In fact, Chrysler-Plymouth-Imperial dealers did not >tend to "floorplan" many Imperials at all, for the reasons stated above and >because they didn't sell nearly in the numbers of the lower-priced models >they sold. > >But it was also quite common for people to special-order their Crowns, >Customs and even their lowly Chrysler Newports and Plymouth Savoys, if the >dealer did not have what they wanted. People just did this back then. > >Air conditioning was just ramping up in popularity in the early 1960s. >Consider that only 33% of 1958 Imperials had it, but 60% had it by 1962. It >is only logical that those individuals willing to pay for the highest trim >level (LeBaron) were also willing to pay for more luxury options, so even >beyond their elevated standard equipment, it is more common to find a highly >optioned LeBaron than a loaded Custom. > >Some prices to consider, all for 1961 4-door Southampton (hardtop) models: >- Custom, base MSRP: $5,111 >- Crown, base MSRP: $5,649 <-- $538 jump from a Custom >- LeBaron, base MSRP: $6,428 <-- $779 jump from a Crown >- Air conditioning: $590.20 <-- About the same as the model jumps above > >Roger's point is valid in that the LeBaron is the finest of the fine, so if >you want the top of the line, find a lovely LeBaron! (Though dear Roger, why >do you keep making our Crowns and Customs sound like Valiants?) And it's >only logical to create the Ghia limousine, which actually is a coachbuilt >car, from the top trim level, so if you really want the best, find one of >the handful of Ghia limos built each year! But the truth is, you can't order >a new one now anyway, so find the car "in stock" somewhere that speaks to >your heart and has the best combination of features, color and condition, >and you'll be off to a good start. > >Chris in LA >67 Crown >78 NYB Salon >63 Dart > > >On 2/9/08 8:18 PM, RODGER D. REDDISH at FltSgt@xxxxxxx wrote: > >> Hola David >> >> The answer is in the history of the Le Baron name. If the car is an Packard, >> or whatever brand name, the value is upper by enough to see why. The 1961 >> owner of an new La Baron had to pay for the gold placed on the car, not so >> with the entry level Custom or the mid level Crown's ( find the gold in the >> cars with an "L" or the "M" ). >> >> In 1961 an want to be Imperial owner could drive over to the lot and have that >> Custom or Crown. All Le Baron's were an special order only. Find an Le Baron >> with out A/|C. Then look at how many Custom's or Crown's that do not have the >> equiptment. >> >> On an like note please look at the rear window of the 1961 Le Baron and >> compare it with Crown Imperial ( aka Lim-o ). All Crown Imperial's ( the ones >> that were shipped from the plant to Ghia ) have the Le Baron package as an >> starting point. >> >> There are some other points to look at, but I believe you are able to see the >> picture better now. >> >> Rodger & Gabby >> COS >> >> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> From: David Randall <mailto:david.randall@xxxxxxx> >>> >>> To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> >>> Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:28 AM >>> >>> Subject: IML: Ranking of models and packages >>> >>> >>> Folks, >>> >>> I've searched on the site and elsewhere for this info, and maybe I missed >>> it, but I don't quite understand the rakings of models and/or packages in >>> the Imperial line. In the '61s for example, where does a LeBaron sit vs. a >>> Crown or Southampton? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> David >>> '78 NYB coupe >>> >>> >>> ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- >>> This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please >>> reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be >>> shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the >>> Administrators should be sent to iml.webmonster@xxxxxxxxx >>> To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm >>> >> > > > > >----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- >This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please >reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be >shared with everyone. 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