Quoting "John G. Napoli" <john@xxxxxxxxx>: > Correct, there is no lockup clutch. However, the nature of a fluid > coupling > (as opposed to a torque converter) permits it to effectively lock up > once it > reaches a certain rpm. At that point, the entire fluid mass is > rotating > around and 'locking' the driven disk to the driver. Fluid couplings > have > straight vanes, and just a driver and driven member. Torque converters > have > curved vanes and three elements. This is an oversimplification that > perhaps > someone can expound upon, but the fluid coupling does act as if it is > locked > up. > John. Even the fluid coupling will have some slippage. Usually, fluid couplings have a bit less slippage than torque converters (especially at low rpm) as you said, but in order to transmit the torque through the fluid, some slippage is necessary. Zero slippage, zero torque (unless there is a lockup clutch). The higher the rpm, the less the slippage required for a given torque. The 3rd element of the torque converter that you are discussing is responsible for the multiplication. There is a sprag clutch between this 3rd element and the engine side of the converter, and when the speed is low and slippage high, the clutch engages, and this element (don't remember its name) redirects the fluid flow at a sharper angle against the impeller blades of the transmission side of the converter (I think that's called "turbine") and thus you get the multiplication. Of course, there is a price to pay, and that is the higher slippage. At higher speeds, this spag clutch will disengage, and the converter will act as a normal fluid coupling. A low stall converter will still have almost negligible slippage (of the order of 1-2%) at high speeds (say over 3000), even at high load. However, due to the multiplication feature, it will have to rev faster to get to this low level of slippage. So, effectively, it generates more heat than the older fluid coupling. D^2 w/ a lockup converter in his 68 LeBaron and a non-lockup converter in his 68 Sedan.