converters/ fluid couplings
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converters/ fluid couplings



Quoting "John G. Napoli" <john@xxxxxxxxx>:


> Correct, there is no lockup clutch.  However, the nature of a fluid
> coupling
> (as opposed to a torque converter) permits it to effectively lock up
> once it
> reaches a certain rpm.  At that point, the entire fluid mass is
> rotating
> around and 'locking' the driven disk to the driver.  Fluid couplings
> have
> straight vanes, and just a driver and driven member.  Torque converters
> have
> curved vanes and three elements.  This is an oversimplification that
> perhaps
> someone can expound upon, but the fluid coupling does act as if it is
> locked
> up.
> 

John.  Even the fluid coupling will have some slippage.  Usually, fluid 
couplings have a bit less slippage than torque converters (especially at low 
rpm) as you said, but in order to transmit the torque through the fluid, some 
slippage is necessary.  Zero slippage, zero torque (unless there is a lockup 
clutch).  The higher the rpm, the less the slippage required for a given 
torque.  The 3rd element of the torque converter that you are discussing is 
responsible for the multiplication.  There is a sprag clutch between this 3rd 
element and the engine side of the converter, and when the speed is low and 
slippage high, the clutch engages, and this element (don't remember its name) 
redirects the fluid flow at a sharper angle against the impeller blades of the 
transmission side of the converter (I think that's called "turbine") and thus 
you get the multiplication.  Of course, there is a price to pay, and that is 
the higher slippage.  At higher speeds, this spag clutch will disengage, and 
the converter will act as a normal fluid coupling.  A low stall converter will 
still have almost negligible slippage (of the order of 1-2%) at high speeds 
(say over 3000), even at high load.  However, due to the multiplication 
feature, it will have to rev faster to get to this low level of slippage.  So, 
effectively, it generates more heat than the older fluid coupling.

D^2 w/ a lockup converter in his 68 LeBaron and a non-lockup converter in his 
68 Sedan.




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