If it's leather, is will be much more absorbent than vinyl - try a bit of leather treatment, either a lotion/balm type or simply a bit of soapy (NOT detergent!) water - vinyl is nearly impervious unless it's so dry as to be inflexible. Leather in any condition will continue to absorb and rehydrate until it is flabby with moisture. ******************************* ORIGINAL MESSAGE: From: DONALDDICKINSOND@xxxxxx Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 10:24:52 EDT Subject: IML: Is it vinyl or leather? Reply-To: mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Is there any good (solvent?) test to verify where leather trim ends and vinyl begins? Some of these vinyls are hard to tell from leather. ******************************** Kate Justet Triplett Kate's Custom Gunleather Monroe, Washington Proud mother of a soldier and owner of "Lucille" 1968 Crown