Welcome Patrick Moore, '58 hrdtp
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Welcome Patrick Moore, '58 hrdtp



OK, sir, to business.  The game is afoot!

I still don't know how to tell if it's a Southampton or a base model, particularly if you could get a Southampton  with only front air.  It has every other option except, sadly, no Auto Pilot.  I would have enjoyed having that and may retro that in at some point in the future.
 
You are still confused about the word Southampton.  The provision of A/C is totally unrelated to the appellation. Southampton is a body style term only.  You could get the coupe, which was a two door Southampton.  You could get a convertible, you could get a sedan, which has fully framed doors and a third window on the sides or a four door hardtop, which is called a four door Southampton.  A/C options that have emerged are: None at all, Rear only, Front only Dual A/C (front and rear).  I have never pinned this down but I think rear air only was a factory installed option wheras front only was installed at the dealership.  No matter the trim level or body style you could get air, or not, to suit your fancy and your pocket book.

I'll pull the plugs, pour some Marvel Mystery fluid into each chamber and shake the block and let is sit a day or so.  I'll also pull the valve covers and check for rust and lube up the rockers, etc., as well.  I don't know how much MMF to pour into the chambers and I don't know if I'm supposed to try to suck it out before attempting a start, etc.  I'll wing it unless you have any knowledge that you'd care to share about that.
 
Oil: After searching awhile I found the dipstick and it came out with clean-looking oil. Of course, I'm wondering if that means that the water is on the bottom of the pan, and 27 idle years has allowed the goo that may have been suspended in the oil to settle and leave the dipstick looking like the oil was changed last week. Regardless, I'll drain the crankcase and see what I find.
 
As per Dick's response, don't overdo the Marvel, and don't try to crank the engine for the first time with the spark plugs installed.

Water: The radiator is dry and looks like it may have been replaced because is looks new.  I'll pull it and see what's at the bottom of the tank before I fill it.
 
Agreed. Remove the radiator.  You might as wll find out now how difficult this engine is going to be to work on.  The space between the water pump housing and the radiator is tiny, so be very careful.  Get the radiator professionally cleaned.  While its off, blast water through the engine.  You will be truly astonished at the muck that comes out.  The water pump on these cars can be rebuilt which is just as well as all that gunk will eat one up quickly.  I know because I did not perform this operation when I started mine after ten years of relatively careful storage and my pump leaked like a sieve lmost immediatley.  I wish I had removed more of the accumulated trash before I started.

Gas tank: I'm ignoring that issue for the moment.  I'll probably have to pull it, of course, but I sure don't want to.  I hate fooling with gas tanks, fuel lines, and the like. 
Luckily, mine was and still is OK.

Key: The key is at large, so I'll have to bypass the ingnition for the time being, but after taking care of the stuff I've described above, I'm going to try and introduce a little fuel into the carb to see if I can get the hemi to fire.  I'm hoping, at only 45,780 original miles, that I've got a strong motor.  Wish me luck!
Shorting out the key may be OK but I wonder how you are going to turn the thing off.  The neutral button is the starter button.  On a Lincoln we had the lock tumbler kept falling out and we noticed all there was at the back of if was a small slot the size of an average screw driver, which promptly became our on and off key.  We slip the tumbler back into position after this delicate opeartion is performed.
 
These old hemis are extremely tough.  I think you are going to be OK with that.  I know little about body work and I am more concerned about the extensive rust and rot your car has.  It does not sound like an easy fix to me.  If your car is the hardtop, or should I say Southampton, I know where there is a Texas hardtop that is in pretty good shape.  I don't know if floor pans are interchangeable.  I'll be honest and say I have never and would never deal with that problem.  A car with a poor engine is one thing but one with a poor body is entirely another.
 
On the subject of badging, you too seem to have the base model Southampton.  Mine has the little crown on the glove box  plus they crop up on the rocker panel guards as well.  To my eye they don't quite fit the car.  I'd prefer no "snobby" touches.  No offense to those with Imperial Crowns, as those cars were meant to be a little more toffee nosed.
 
Hugh
 


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