The group has moved to Yahoo. I somehow found it about a month ago, and signed up. It took about a week, maybe two to get approved and registered. It does not seem as active as it once was, but it is there. I should put my own introduction out like I was asked to when registered. Go to: http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/OIC-Rainbows/ to register. I thought it WAS Papa Tony who finally got back to me and let me know I was registered. As far as Dr. Challenger's question about "what does sex preference have to do with cars?" It doesn't. Sometimes you just want to talk to people who are like minded in a world that many feel you don't belong in, or should not be allowed "Special Privileges", like marriage, I guess. Also the ever popular "Secret Agenda" that we gay folk seem to have, although I must have been out that day, because I never got that memo. But that is not Imperial related, so that stops here. The point is like any like minded population, who gather, and live, and work, and play together, gay men, and lesbians sometimes want to be able to talk Imperials in our own way. Sometimes campy, sometimes bitchy, always funny, but mostly, being able to express ourselves without worrying about offending the more conservative people of the entire group who may not be as open, or enlightened as others about our lives, partners, etc... Not a condemnation, just a harsh reality. Personally, I get along fine with about everyone, and don't give a darn what people think of me. I dropped that years ago! Like my Mom said "Honey, it's your life, you 'gotta live it. You can't worry about what your brothers think, I think, or your friends think. It's what you think, and feel that matter in your life." She was right. I guess I'm just lucky to have such a wise Mom, when I was 18, and scared to death. Still am lucky at 43, and not so scared anymore. Anyway, that's where the OIC-Rainbows has moved to if anyone else is interested. Bill Ulman Seattle, WA '66 Crown Convertible - Doris Day, with plates that read: FIT4AQN -----Original Message----- From: mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:mailing-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tony Lindsey Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2004 11:18 PM To: Imperial Mailing List Subject: IML: Gay Imperial Owners? Years, ago, one of the Special Interest Groups for this discussion list was the "OIC Rainbows" list. It was a special "Safe Space" for the gay couples and singles among us to "let their hair down" and speak of personal stuff in a frank and open way without worrying that folks were going to try and shame them for speaking their minds. They all belonged to the main list as well, as loyal and energetic Imperialists! What ever happened to that list? There were about fifty households on that list when I moved onward to my next project, years ago. The Online Imperial Club, the Town & Country Registry, the Cadillac/LaSalle Club, the Lincoln Continental Owners Club and other luxury car clubs have a large proportion of gay couples and singles as members. Retired straight couples, too... Kids can be a very limiting factor in the car-collecting/restring hobby. If it's a choice between diapers and education for treasured youngsters versus a new, baby-blue pearlescent leather interior for the LeBaron, kids always win, as they always, ALWAYS should. I've raised six foster kids myself, and that's part of the reason why my cars never got fully restored. I'd do it again the same way. If the "OIC Rainbows" list (clever name, huh?) is defunct, and if anybody is interested in being members on a revived version, please contact me privately at papatony@xxxxxxx and we'll see what we can do about it. I doubt that I'll be hanging around on that list, though. I'm pretty scattered and overwhelmed right now. It may not SEEM like it, with all of the stuff I'm posting lately, but my output is about one tenth of what it used to be. Keeping up with so many Imperialists lately has been a real tonic for me. I haven't been so moody and morose, thanks to the zany and friendly antics of so many cool car-freaks! :-> ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm ----------------- http://www.imperialclub.com ----------------- This message was sent to you by the Imperial Mailing List. Please reply to mailing-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and your response will be shared with everyone. Private messages (and attachments) for the Administrators should be sent to webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To UN-SUBSCRIBE, go to http://imperialclub.com/unsubscribe.htm