Re: [FWDLK] Desoto 361 Update and Resolution
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Re: [FWDLK] Desoto 361 Update and Resolution



YES !! Glad to here it.


--- Dave Stragand <Dave.Stragand@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Okay, so you know I was going to attempt to "wash"
> the cylinders.  That
> went just fine. I could see immediately the effect,
> as what often began
> as Motor Flush pouring straight through the
> cylinders would eventually
> slow down to a trickle as the rings got cleaned and
> began to seal
> better.  Compression on my gauge went up from 90-110
> PSI to between 135
> and 150 PSI on all cylinders -- that's a straight 40
> PSI boost!
>
> I had the valve covers off to spot the bottom of the
> compression stroke,
> which would be just after the intake valve closed.
> Something struck me
> as a bit odd there, in that the rockers would all
> "settle" back flat
> after I stopped cranking.  Hmmm... back to that
> later.
>
> Anyway, I replaced the valve covers and flushed the
> cleaner through
> there and the distributor valley as well.  So much
> gunk came out, that
> it was constantly clogging the fuel filters on my
> solvent pump.  I
> washed it as long as I could, and when I finally
> poured out the solvent
> from the bucket, there was close to a half-gallon of
> sludge down at the
> bottom.  WOW.
>
> I added about a tablespoon of STP with an oil can
> and clear plastic hose
> all around the bore of the cylinders, and spun the
> engine over a few
> times to ensure that they had lubrication for
> startup.
>
> I installed the spark plugs, connected the wires,
> added a gallon of oil
> + two cans of STP and cranked her over.  The oil
> light was bothering me
> a bit, as heavy cranking still wasn't building up
> the pressure enough to
> turn the light out.  I figured it would build up
> after the STP-thickened
> oil had time to circulate a bit.
>
> I added a bit of starting fluid and cranked.  This
> time, I could hear
> each cylinder firing, but there still wasn't quite
> enough "oomph" to
> keep the engine going.  It was finally turning well
> enough to spin-out
> the starter, but just couldn't keep going.  I kept
> this up for about
> three hours... figuring eventually it would catch
> enough to run, but no
> luck.
>
> The oil pressure light still wasn't going out, so I
> pulled the sender
> and cleaned it too.  When cranking, -no- oil came
> out through the
> sender's hole.  Ah ha.  Problem.
>
> I drained the fresh oil back out into a clean
> container, and was
> surprised to see it was barely even dirty.  I then
> hooked up my solvent
> pump again, this time to the oil pressure sender
> hole.  I removed the
> oil filter, and tons of goop started pouring out.
> Turning over the
> filter, I noticed it too was full of goop.
> (Backflushing like this
> should also loosen and flush out all of the crud on
> the pickup screen
> and oil pump -- an added bonus).
>
> Quickly I put two + two together.  The rockers...
> the rockers were
> "settling".  They weren't getting enough oil.  If
> they don't get the
> oil, they don't pump up.  If they don't pump up,
> they don't have enough
> lift.  If they don't have enough lift, they can pull
> a good vacuum (but
> not enough volume!), and also choke the mixture with
> unexhausted burned
> fuel, which would tend to blow by the partially
> opened exhaust valve
> into the crankcase.
>
> Okay, so now things were making sense.  If the oil
> pressure comes up,
> things should be good.
>
> I replaced the oil filter with a new one, and
> cranked the engine until
> the pressure came up (about three cranks).  The
> pressure would stay up
> for about 30 seconds -- also a good sign.  I
> repeated this cycle for
> about 5 minutes to make sure oil was getting flushed
> into the entire
> system, and then added a shot of starter fluid.
>
> The car fired, ran briefly, backfired through the
> carb, then quit.
> That's the first time that car's made noise since
> Nixon was President.
>
> By now, I started getting excited.  I pumped the gas
> a bit, and cranked
> it again.  It caught, but stumbled, so I kept
> gooseing the throttle and
> it stayed running.  Smoke started pouring off the
> oily exhaust
> manifolds, and finally the engine smoothed out, so I
> let off the gas.
>
> PERFECT idle.  No vibrations, no misfires, nothing
> -- she absolutely
> purred.  And she stayed purring.  I adjusted the
> timing a bit, and found
> a small but very distinct "sweet spot", and locked
> it down.  It sounds
> like a brand new car.
>
> The car now starts and runs like it was hot, even in
> a 30 degree garage.
> I ran it through the gears, and the transmission
> seems decent for now at
> least.  In short, it looks like I'm now ready to go
> for a little test
> cruise as soon as I put the gas tank back on.
>
> A BIG THANKS to everyone who helped to solve the
> problem!  I'll keep
> y'all posted on the results of the test cruise if I
> do it today.
>
> -Dave


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