Re: [FWDLK] transmission identification
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Re: [FWDLK] transmission identification



I think you will find the torqueflites
in some A100's are aluminum and have the
parking break on the tail shaft. I have two of them.
One of the ones I have was from a motor home,
and I'm not sure if it was an A100 or not, but it
was a light-duty motor home (it burned).
They are cable shift, but not using push buttons.

Tom             57 Coronet   southern Ohio



David Homstad wrote:

> Erich,
>
> I would like to add one comment to all of the good info John sent. The only
> 727 TF with a tail shaft mounted drum parking/emergency brake was used in
> the 1962 Chrysler. Most or all of these were behind B engines. If you want
> to retain an emergency brake with changing to a newer rear end, you will
> need one of these. Try calling your local salvage yards.
>
> Dave Homstad
> 56 Dodge D500
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List
> [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of John Bartell
> Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 10:43 AM
> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] transmission identification
>
> Erich,
>    The 62 to 65 727s have cable shift, as do our cast iron Torqueflites of
> the 50's. They are also made of aluminum.  The 1965 727 has a splined
> tailshaft and no parking brake on the tailshaft.   With an exception...there
> were some 727s made in 65 that still used a flange on the end of the
> tailshaft, such as in the Imperial.  This was the tranny used behind the
> 413s in the longer wheelbased Imperial and maybe others, as they used a two
> piece driveshaft.  The only difference in the 62 -64 727s as opposed to the
> 65's as far as valve bodies seems to be the detent spring.   This spring is
> a minor item, and can be changed without changing valve bodies.   I have
> been told the detent spring in the 65 was stronger, as the 65 cars were
> equipped with shift linkage to a box, and then the cable went to the tranny.
> So, in order for your push buttons to work easily, a lighter spring is
> needed.  And the cables will work from your 58 in the 62 - 65 727s without
> any worries about the order  in which your buttons are on the dash.  The
> reason one would use the 65 727 is to do away with the parking brake on the
> end of the tranny and use a parking brake on a more modern rear end.
>    I am changing my 59 Ply over to a 440, 65 727 and a 69 Chrysler rear end.
> This way I get power, a tranny with a park, ( I plan to mount the park lever
> under the dash somehow.) and a rear end with more modern brakes...no more
> wheel pullers and warped drums.  I also plan to use the parking brake on the
> newer style rear end.   I have been told the rear ends from 69 - 73 full
> size Chrysler products will bolt right in to our cars without changing
> spring mounts or driveshafts.   Of course if you change over to a splined
> tailshaft and a newer tranny, you will need to have a driveshaft made to
> fit.
>    Where to find a 62 - 65 727....watch Ebay...I found one on there.  That
> is how I found out the longer wheelbased cars still had flanges and not
> splines.  I now have a 727 that needs a different tailshaft and main shaft.
> I found another one to buy when I started to ask around the guys who build
> drag cars and have older muscle Mopars from the 60s.  Another source might
> be checking on the net for sites with Mopars from the 60s.   Also, put an ad
> in the Fwdlk. Wanted Section.  I had to pay $200 for a 65 727 with a splined
> tailshaft.  The rebuild kit for it was $140.  I am also putting in a
> mainshaft from a small block  66 and up 727, because they have a finer
> spline and then you can use a more modern torque converter.  Smoother shifts
> and less clunk when you engage the tranny.   If you plan to race your 440,
> then you may want to stay with the older larger TC.
>    Hope I have not confused you.  If you have more questions, you could
> email me or call me.   I do not know all, but I sure have learned alot in
> the last few months chasing down info and parts.  My number is
> 715-743-2462...email me first to confirm a good time to call if that is what
> you would want to do.
> John in WI
>
> Erich J Brewer wrote:
>
>   I need a 62-65 Torque-Flite 727 for a big block (so I am told) in order to
>
> put a 440 in my 58 Plymouth and retain the push button controls.  How do I
>
> identify these from any other TF 727 transmission?  Also, where can I find
>
> one??
>
>   Erich
>
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