Yeah.. to further lead us off topic, but...
even a wrecked car can be repaired or sold for parts. Once it's burned out
it's pretty much useless (although I think a few of those were used over and
over for fires on some TV shows). So they'd use photographic tricks to
layer the explosion on top - it didn't always use to be less expensive, but
it's easier than having fire crews and so forth and figuring out how to do a
controlled explosion.
Last night I had on this cheesy sci-fi movie called Time Runner. If a cheap
movie is a B movie, this thing is a D movie shot by college film students -
in a community college. Mark Hamill doesn't know how to act anymore,
either, or he needed to go to rehab after this thing was made... Anyhow,
they had a building blow up and you could see it was clearly a phony
explosion and even the fire out the windows was obviously phony afterwards.
This thing looked like it had a budget that would have made Jack Benny look
like a big spender, so they couldn't just go out and really burn a building
they probably would have had to buy ($100,000 easily judging by the size)
and pay a fire department to be on site to burn.
By the end of the Dukes they were using really cheesy large scale models for
stunts. So bad it was obvious and cheesy to me as an 11 year old kid when
they first aired - you could tell when they were using various old film
clips pasted together instead of an actual jump, too. They probably should
have just hung a charger shell on some kind of off road truck chassis and
jumped that - would have been no worse than the one Burt Reynolds movie
where he's a stuntman and they jump a red Trans Am with this phony (and
cheesy!!) jet booster in it. During the jump you see a jet powered funny
car going over the gap...
I can just imagine if you jumped a stock frame '57-8 Plymouth - the back of
the car would fold up when you touched down. Frame rails in the back of
those are so cheesy looking - anyone ever see these in demo derbys years
ago, see how they fared? I am guessing a couple hits and the rearend was
caved in up to the wheels -
Bill K.
----- Original Message -----
From: <cpollock@xxxxxxxx>
To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 24, 2005 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Riding the Bullet
> Hi Ray,
> I actually bought the 'Bullit' DVD to watch that scene. The Charger
doesn't actually get blown up. If you watch it frame-by-frame then you can
see it pass by the Gas Storage Tanks in the background as they blow up. No
doubt it impacted SOMETHING and was destroyed, but the explosion didn't do
it. A friend of mine pointed this out back in the old VCR days, and I could
never really see it, but with the DVD it is crystal clear.
>
> Very interesting of course.
> The Dukes are another story though. They killed a lot of 68-70 Chargers,
and they inspired the destruction of many countless more. I personally have
seen the effects of jumping these cars on the ones that I have found for
sale, or in junkyards, etc. Never pretty.
>
> Enjoy!
> Charles.
>
>
> From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2005/01/23 Sun PM 03:22:48 EST
> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Riding the Bullet
>
> What's as much fun is seeing that the cars that get blown up usually
> have NO motor. One has to wonder how they got to the explosion! If
> memory serves that is the fate of the Charger in Bullit, as it goes
> into the gas station. And i remember the Dukes flying thru the air over
> a bridge that was out, Hood up and no engine.
>
> As to the 4 door Coupe, the Chief Designer stated that he considers the
> NEW Charger as a 4 door Coupe.
>
> Hang onto those memories, it's getting to be all we have..... and
> losing them!
> Ray
> Ray Jones, Mena, AR in the Ouachita Mountains in western Arkansas
> Y'all com'on down and we'll sit ona porch and sip a few.
>
> On Jan 23, 2005, at 12:58 AM, Bill K. wrote:
>
> > That switching car thing is very common. Police cars in Smokey & The
> > Bandit change from Dodge to Pontiac to older and much larger Dodge
> > back and
> > forth. One scene cuts to a close-up where one sherrif car backs into
> > another and in just that bit of a scene the car being hit becomes a 65
> > Mustang. Sherrif Justace's car loses and gains body panels, in the
> > second
> > one it transforms from '79 to '71 Pontiac back and forth too. You
> > could
> > probably start a whole thread on all the instances of cars changing
> > back and
> > forth and other movie and TV continuity errors.
> >
> > The Dukes of Hazzard was famous for this too, although it was less
> > noticeable with the fleet of '73-'78 Plymouths and Dodges for police
> > cars.
> > In that show, you can also spot cars that get wrecked in one show and
> > apparently then fixed to re-use (and re-wreck) in another one.
> >
> >
> >
> > On a closer to topic note, anyone noticed the new Mercedes commercial
> > featuring "the world's first 4-door coupe'? They start with a 30's
> > model,
> > cut to the next generation, then the 59 or so version, then a '70s or
> > 80's
> > model, then the new one, all parked in the same location with a movie
> > theatre in the background.
> >
> > Every car that passes in the background is a Mopar of some sort,
> > correct to
> > the era of the Mercedes - one is a '61 Dodge, even the minivans and
> > things
> > in the current day scene are recognizable as Chrysler products. Which
> > makes sense and all, but what a lot of trouble for such a small detail
> > - its
> > the exact opposite of the switching cars thing in TV and movies.
> >
> >
> >
> > Bill K.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Garrett" <TheBulkster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "Bill K." <pontiac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 1:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Riding the Bullet
> >
> >
> >> Judging by how many times my 57 Dodge was called anything BUT a 57
> >> Dodge
> > by
> >> various onlookers, I'm willing to bet that MOST of the general public
> > won't
> >> notice a difference between a 58, 59, or 60 Plymouth (the big, bold
> > letters
> >> spelling out DODGE on the hood and trunk of my car, as well as
> >> Coronet on
> >> the side didn't clue them in either). In fact, they probably could've
> >> thrown in different makes and years of cars in the movie and, as long
> >> as
> >> they were all painted the same, many people probably wouldn't have
> >> noticed
> >> the difference.
> >>
> >> A lot of really stupid probably see Christine and remark how that was
> >> a
> > fine
> >> lookin' 57 Chevy used in the movie.
> >>
> >> On a side note, I was watching an episode of The A-Team Season One on
> >> DVD
> >> the other day (perhaps the best TV show ever) and the Dodge being
> >> used to
> >> chase the A-Team remarkably turned into a 73 (maybe 74) Chevy for a
> >> couple
> >> scenes, and then back to the Dodge (or perhaps a different Dodge)
> >> when it
> >> came time to wreck the car. I found it funny that they made such a
> > drastic
> >> switch, especially since the cars were so different looking (early 70s
> >> Fullsize Chevy vs. mid-late 70s Dodge).
> >>
> >> ~Garrett
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Bill K." <pontiac@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 3:53 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Riding the Bullet
> >>
> >>
> >>> They painted it so the top looks more like a '60 and use it for a
> >>> crash
> >>> scene only -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> website buried somewhere in the forums there is a couple pics showing
> > the
> >>> cars they used. (forwardlook.net) -
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Bill K.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: "Dan Morton" <morton@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> To: <L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:20 AM
> >>> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Riding the Bullet
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> OK -- but, where's the '59?! You know that's what I'm interested
> >>>> in...
> >>> 8^)
> >>>>
> >>>> Dan
> >>>> dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List
> >>>> [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jennifer & Will
> >>>> Weaver
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 9:49 AM
> >>>> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Riding the Bullet
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> the question and answer section explains why they could not find
> >>>> a 58
> >>> but
> >>>> did find a 60. and they did apologize.
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List
> >>>> [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Larry Ashbaugh
> >>>> Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2005 3:32 AM
> >>>> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>>> Subject: [FWDLK] Riding the Bullet
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have been seeing the trailers tonight for Steven King's
> >>>> "Riding
> > the
> >>>> Bullet", featuring a Fury. The site,
> >>>> http://www.usanetwork.com/movies/ridingthebullet/, talks about
> >>> "Christine",
> >>>> and the car being a '58 Fury, but show the car to be a 1960, while
> >>>> the
> >>>> "B"
> >>>> car they use for the crash scene shows it to be a 1959 Plymouth.
> >>>> Are
> >>>> they
> >>>> uncaring, unknowing, or do they think that we cannot distinguish the
> > fact
> >>>> that they are talking and using three different years of Plymouths?
> >>>>
> >>>> I mean, I certainly am glad they feature ForwardLook cars, but
> >>>> get
> > a
> >>>> grip here.
> >>>>
> >>>> Larry (in cold, snowy Akron, Ohio)
> >>>>
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