Re: [FWDLK] car lifespans

[Jim Faber <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

   There are several reasons todays cars are more rust resistant. The use of more aluminized and
   galvanized steel but the best reason is a primer paint process called ELPO. The entire body is
   Dunked into a tank of primer while it has an electrical charge to make the coating adhere to the
   sheet metal, ie no hidden areas or recesses that never see any coating. The paints are better
   as well, paints cross link or polymerize to for a more impervious coating.

   As a side comment, I too grew up in northern Ohio with the salt problem but have been in salt
   proof South Carolina for many years. There are people here that made their living trucking good
   auto bodies - sheet metal north then bringing good engines and drive trains back south.

   Jim Faber  South Caolina

   300B
   70 Challenger convert
> 
> From: Greg Filtz <filtz1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2007/02/12 Mon PM 12:36:31 EST
> To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [FWDLK] car lifespans
> 
> Not to be too much off topic... What was the change from the 50s through 
> the 90's to now?    I can remember growing up in Milwaukee Wisconsin 
> (major salt), that all the cars on the road that were kept for any 
> length of time had  serious rust problems in the wheel wells, rocker 
> panels, and trunk area's.    Now days it is rare to see a car in that 
> much rust!    Is the paint better?   Is the metal better?   Is the body 
> design better (all aesthetics aside)?
> 
> Greg in Snowy and Salty WI
> 56 Dodge
> 
> Ron Waters wrote:
> 
> > > Now THAT is some serious speed rusting !
> >  
> > Actually, that's quite believable. I lived in Syracuse in the mid-70s. 
> > Because they got tons of lake-effect snow, roads were salted like mad 
> > from Oct to April. You would see cars that were less than 5 years old 
> > with serious rust. Many folks put the good car away and drove a 
> > 'winter rat' during the snowy months.
> >  
> > Ron
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     From: Brent Burger <mailto:cgico@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >     Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2007 12:19 PM
> >     Subject: Re: [FWDLK] car lifespans
> >
> >           My 58 Fireflite convertible started life in Syracuse, NY. 
> >     Evidence shows that it changed hands in 1960 and moved to Madison,
> >     Wisconsin, where it died in 1968 of terminal rust failure and got
> >     stuffed in a garage and forgotten.  The second owner that took it
> >     to Madison was a professor at Syracuse, and transferred to the U of W.
> >      
> >          When I tore the car apart to restore it a second time (as if
> >     you could call the first time anything but a patch job), we
> >     discovered the lower quarters, fender caps and bottom skins had
> >     all been replaced.  This would have occured PRIOR to it being sold
> >     to the second owner in 1960, as he stated the car never had any
> >     work like that done on it while in his care. Now THAT is some
> >     serious speed rusting !
> >      
> >       Most of the FL cars that made it out to Seattle suffered from
> >     the perpetual rain we got there, even without the salted roads.  I
> >     live in the desert now, and the sheetmetal fared as well as
> >     baremetal would in the desert.  I find FL cars from time to time. 
> >     The dust gets in them here and settles to the lower body areas. 
> >     Then, when the rains do come, the cars have mud pies drying out in
> >     their lower bodies for weeks or months after.  It isn't like the
> >     salt cars, but even the dry cars suffered from lack of build quality.
> >      
> >       Brent
> >
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