Hi Dave,
Looks strange I'll say that. I have cars I've stored 10+ years outdoors in my driveway just under plain covers that don't look like that.
I think the key here is that it was a Limestone mine. That is, the car was surrounded with Lime. We have alot of lime in the water here in Cincinnati, and it leaves a deposit in the sinks, tubs, toilet, etc that looks alot like the deposits in your photos. Lime will stick to ANY and ALL moisture, will disolve in water and be deposited and will react with most metals, and petrochemicals. Which means it chemically reacts with steel- as you found out. I say an old Limestone mine is probably right up there with an old salt mine as a place I would not want to store something.
But-
The whole point is you saved a car, and that's what important- even if you do have to gut the interior!
Take Care,
Charles.
---- Dave Stragand <dave.stragand@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I recently rescued another car from a time capsule -- my 1979 Monte
> Carlo which has also been stored underground -- in a limestone mine --
> for the last 10 years. Consider the following:
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> In a strange parallel to Miss Belvedere, my rear springs completely
> shattered. They are now as easy to break as a pretzel rod, but yet
> strangely show no signs of internal rust-through.
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> Also, like Miss Belvedere, I had a hard time getting the doors open, the
> hood is still stuck, and the brand new exhaust system was as
> structurally sound as a potato chip. (Odd though that a piece of
> unfinished, untreated sheet metal in the trunk showed absolutely no
> signs of corrosion.)
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> The wheels are also seized, the interior is filled with a weird,
> flesh-eating bacteria, and for some reason only the front tires will
> hold air.
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> My accidental time capsule in the trunk consisted of a case of Pop-Tarts
> (still appear to be edible, but I'm not going to try) and the random
> cans of Dr Pepper also appear just fine (score one for aluminum cans).
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>
> And this is all on a car that was stored in a fairly DRY, ventilated
> underground storage facility for only TEN years. The Tulsa car held up
> amazing well considering the amount of water damage it incurred.
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> More pics at http://www.forwardlook.net/images/chevy/photo_gallery.htm
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> -Dave
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> What I heard, from a knowledgeable source,
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> at Tulsa (Dave Grow) , regarding the springs'
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> failure was due to their steel's high-carbon
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> (for strength) content.
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> Spring steel is reportedly more susceptable
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> to failure-corrosion, than mild (body) steel.
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> I don't know the chemical-content/reaction of Tulsa's groundwater, in
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> the context of 50 year's
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> exposure, but, the thing speaks for itself, that the body-mass, bearing
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> down on the leaf springs (with the microscopic voids, between the leafs)
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> in continual contact with water that had leached thru concrete, and
>
> Gunnite, did a "job" , on those leaf springs!!!
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> Also, no one has yet mentioned the interesting fact, that the
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> trunk-support-bracings corroded away from the trunk skin!
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> Bet that nobody's seen THAT, either.
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> What clearly occurred, was that the water that immersed the car got
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> "into" the non-painted voids between the bracings and the under- trunk
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> , and just sat there, maybe-never evaporating, until the bracings just
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> collapsed away from the trunk skin.
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> Neil Vedder
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