What was your wages when you paid 15.00 to fill your tank and what are your wages now? Here in the Midwest, most people don't make 20.00 and hour either. some make 150K annually and some make 12K. all that proves is fuel has a right to go up in price. The stats that say I used to make 1.25 per hour in 1957 and now I make 20.00 an hour in 2008, are not made up stats.. That's reality, and if you would be honest, you would have to say the same. Your wages have gone up significantly like fuel . As for our economic ignorance showing, look in a mirror..... Just because your teach college don't make you a economic wizard. Before you start telling people on this list there ignorance is showing, look in that same mirror again.. You do more harm by telling people there ignorant than letting the express there opinion, . The price of fuel has a big thing to do with this list. It powers our cars. There's nothing wrong with discussing it unless someone thinks they are the only one that is right and the rest are showing economic ignorance.. There's no sense talking like that,, we are all adults, not little kids. This list is pleasant, it just turns bad when someone says things like your economic ignorance is showing.... mel From: Tom Stroup [mailto:tstroup@xxxxxxxx] Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 11:43 AM To: Mopar Mel; L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [FWDLK] L-FORWARDLOOK Digest - 16 May 2008 to 17 May 2008 (#2008-132) I asked you guys to go back to Forward Look stuff. Your economic ignorance is showing. The economic index and inflation are computed in several ways. Don't you know 83.7 % of statistics are made up ? LOL This list should be pleasant. No politics, religion or economics. I don't know who you hang around with in your Midwest, but I teach college in Appalachia and people, most people, don't make 60-80K here. I do, and I was listed in the local newspaper as the twentieth highest paid public employee in this county. Like it was something bad. The locals are hurting really bad. They are being forced to put money in the tank so they can go to work and then have no money left for anything. Some choices. Food prices are up and there isn't enough money to eat what you want. That's some America. Why don't our presidential candidates know what is going on ? Here, read this. Then search out some information for yourself. Bakken Oil Formation Why you must own a piece of "The Bakken" over the next 30 days... By Ian Cooper Saturday, April 5th, 2008 U.S. consumers paid out $340 billion to import 14 million barrels a day... just for 2007. And it's only likely to get worse. We're already paying more $3.30 for a gallon of gas on gushing pre-summer driving season oil prices. I just paid $42 to fill up my car, as I damned the pump. It used to cost me $15. Sure, U.S. oil production has been spiraling downward for the last 40 years. But there's one area that's just starting to heat up, one that could boost our oil reserves 10 times over. No joke. We're talking about the opportunity to meet all U.S. oil needs for the next two decades. That's huge. Think about that. What if we could reduce our dependency on foreign oil? The Middle East would lose its marbles. The Next Oil Boom Is Upon Us.. in the Bakken Oil Formation Locals call it "The Bakken." It's a behemoth oil reserve stretching across North Dakota, Montana and southeastern Saskatchewan... a reserve so massive it contains 10 times more barrels of oil than Alaska's North Slope. Keith Kohl has been telling you about this for months in his <http://www.energyandcapital.com/articles/bakken-oil-formation/578> Bakken Oil Formation report. While the U.S. Geological Survey has reported the Bakken Formation could hold more than 400 billion barrels of recoverable oil, a new report offering an accurate assessment of the Bakken Formation will be released over the next 30 days, finishing the work started by scientist Leigh Price. Price had estimated that the Bakken Formation held as many as 900 billion barrels of oil, but died before the work could be published or reviewed. Some pegged it at close to 200 billion to 300 billion, with others calling for more than 400 billion. Until recent years, the technology simply wasn't available to economically extract the oil from the Bakken shales, making product efforts overwhelming. But with breakthrough techniques such as horizontal drilling, the full potential of the Bakken play can now be developed. And it's well worth it given high oil prices and technological advancements. The Boom Oil Year Ahead in North Dakota Thar's black gold in them thar hills... This time in North Dakota. And as we mentioned above, the discovery could be significant. Unlike Northern Canada's oil sands, the Bakken's oil can be extracted relatively cheap, without the use of energy intensive processes. That news alone means North Dakota could be headed for a boom oil year. In January 2008 alone, the North Dakota Oil and Gas Division issued 90 permits to drill. At that pace, the number of permits could double those of last year, and "be near the record 1,098 issued in 1981," according to reports. <snip> _____ From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List on behalf of Mopar Mel Sent: Sun 5/18/2008 12:11 PM To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [FWDLK] L-FORWARDLOOK Digest - 16 May 2008 to 17 May 2008 (#2008-132) I have to agree with Neil, 4.00,5,6,7 even 8.00 gas is not that big of deal,,you have to consider the inflation prices.. in 1957, 1.25 per hour was very good wages in the Midwest. Most people didn't get that, most got 1.00 hr. gas was 29.9 per gallon. Do the math, gas has gone up maybe 12-14 times over but look at wages, most people now days are making 60-80K here in the Midwest... we are all getting too excited over 4.00 gallon gas,, we have just been spoiled with 1.00 gallon gas. We didn't know what we had. Reality is, there is nothing wrong with 5.00 gallon gas,, sure, we hate to pay it, but you cant have rain without cloudy skies mel _____ From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of L-FORWARDLOOK automatic digest system Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:00 PM To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: L-FORWARDLOOK Digest - 16 May 2008 to 17 May 2008 (#2008-132) <http://www.lsoft.com/> LISTSERV mailing list manager <http://lists.psu.edu/cgi-bin/wa?LIST=L-FORWARDLOOK> LISTSERV 15.0 L-FORWARDLOOK Digest - 16 May 2008 to 17 May 2008 (#2008-132) Table of contents: * <https://mail.sscc.edu/exchange/tstroup/Drafts/RE:%20%5bFWDLK%5d%20L-FORWARD LOOK%20Digest%20-%2016%20May%202008%20to%2017%20May%202008%20(%232008-132).E ML/1_text.htm#S1> DUAL 4 BBL CARB ON PLYMOUTH AND CHRYSLER * <https://mail.sscc.edu/exchange/tstroup/Drafts/RE:%20%5bFWDLK%5d%20L-FORWARD LOOK%20Digest%20-%2016%20May%202008%20to%2017%20May%202008%20(%232008-132).E ML/1_text.htm#S2> FW: 57 Fury showroom window banner. 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