Re: [FWDLK] Firming up Front Suspension

Looks like at least $400-$500+ for custom bars, with dust boots, using prices that are advertised for the bars they already make.

From: John <spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Firming up Front Suspension

Firm Feel will make custom bars - at a price.

http://www.firmfeel.com/torsionb_c.htm

John Spiers

From: Alan <slanted@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Firming up Front Suspension

All,

Even though heavier bars are the ideal remedy, who do we know that will make a heavy duty torsion bar for the ’57 on Plymouth, Dodge & others ?

In the meantime at least a stiffer shock would be an improvement, especially if it’s adjustable which would then allow some fine tuning.

Regards,

Alan Down Under.

From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List [mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Wayne Graefen
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 12:24 AM
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [FWDLK] Firming up Front Suspension

Can we step out of the shock absorber sand box we have been playing in for several days?

How did the factory firm up front suspension to create the Chrysler Letter Cars and Dodge 500 /501 cars?

In '55-56 they FIRST installed heavy duty coil springs; secondly they added heavy duty oil shocks which back in the day didn't do much. In 1957 and later torsion bar cars FIRST they installed H.D. torsion bars; secondly they added H.D. oil shocks which didn't do much.

There were no polyurethane or polygraphite bushings available for any placement. There were no factory heavy duty anti sway bars (the Windsor /Saratoga bars are the same as the Chrysler 300). Chrysler called anti-sway bars "sway eliminator shafts" if you want to check that in section 17-29-0 of your parts books.

I am of the opinion that there would be many more car owners interested in purchasing reproduction heavy duty coil springs or torsion bars for their cars at perhaps $300 per pair than Koni shocks at $500 per pair and NOT JUST because of the price, BUT because it is the CORRECT first step to firming the suspension.

It would seem that the '57-59 car owners are the most interested in this discussion. I'm not an all around expert but for that year set, if one pair of repro HDs for the Dodge /Plym and another pair of repro HDs for the Chrysler /DeSoto were done it would be covered. (My '55-58 parts book doesn't show '59 if I'm missing something) Success of that project determines whether '60-61 projects are considered.

'55-56 owners can look into HD coil springs but they can already be ordered.

And don't get me wrong; I still want two pairs of Koni fronts for two of my cars. One a 300 and the other an Imperial and both cars CURRENTLY have HD torsion bars in them.

Wayne Graefen

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