Fern,
You are correct, but I did say they "used push button cables". In 1965, the transmissions were lever activated, connected to the trans with a cable. They are push button compatible.
Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500
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Sent: Mon, 1 Aug 2016 10:04:29 -0600
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Fw: Combining incomplet projects
Please note that they did NOT use push buttons in 1965.
Fern with 1965 300L ht.
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2016 3:48 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Fw: Combining incomplet projects
George,
Only the 1962 727 for B engines (includes 440) has the rear brake drum. Up to 1965, 727s used push button cables.
For more info on a 727 into a 56 Dodge, see my web page at:
http://webpages.charter.net/dhomstad/TransmissionFrame1Source1.htm
Dave Homstad
56 Dodge D500
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From: "George McCollam" <00000386f9f13ba3-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sat, 30 Jul 2016 17:09:23 +0000
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Fw: Combining incomplet projects
Hello: All
I want to thank everyone for the responses.
I am going to move forward on the project, so it looks as if there will be a 440/727, manual steering, very stock outward appearance, upgraded radiator don't know about interior yet.
So, now my choice is 727 trans: Do I use the one already attached to the 440 and change out the rear axle assembly to get an emergency brake? Or do I use a 727 I have that has the drum trans brake tail piece and keep the '56 rear?
Also the paint has a nice patina, not show Quality... so I found a product that claims to be able to cover any patina and protect from further degrade... What to do you think??? I think Eastwood sells it.
George
On Thursday, July 28, 2016 8:51 PM, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Good information Dave. I can also attest that my manual steering 56 Plymouth is extremely easy to steer with the 277 V8. The Poly (approx. 611lbs.) weighs in a bit less than the 440 but not enough to be concerned with changing suspension components...and the the alum. case 727 with convertor is a lot less than the cast iron Powerflite.
Gary Pavlovich
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2016 12:12 AM
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Fw: Combining incomplet projects
George,
Because of the large diameter 56 Dodge steering wheel and the steering gear box ratio, my 56 Dodge steers very easy without power steering. At any speed over 2 mph it is very easy steering.
When I installed a 727 into my Dodge behind the original Dodge Hemi, I did not have to relocate the trans crossmember. The length from the front of the trans to the trans mount is the same on a 727 as a PowerFlight, however I think manual trans are different.
Dave Homstad
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From: "George McCollam" <00000386f9f13ba3-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wed, 27 Jul 2016 15:52:19 +0000
Subject: Re: [FWDLK] Fw: Combining incomplet projects
Hello: All
Phillip asked if there would be a problem adding power steering because of the manual trans.
My thought is no...as I would be removing the manual trans to make way for the 440/727. Now if I put in a Poly 318 as was suggested, I still would think there would be no problem. It is my understanding that all coxial power steering units were identical no matter what platform they were put in. Please advise if this is wrong.
So far most seem to like the fit, (installing the 440/727) I'm warming up to it. I really wanted to put the baby Hemi in but the cost is heavy and funds need to go to committed project (eg, 56 Crown Imperial Limousine) that is almost done.
It is really great to have knowlagable people to bounce ides off.
I have a bare empty 56 wagon frame that I will use to pre fit motor mounts and the trans mount. so that should help things go faster.
So since I have a donner coxial steering shaft do I install it or stay with manual steering??? I think I'm becoming a wimp as the idea of power steering sounds better....
Thanks George
On Wednesday, July 27, 2016 10:33 AM, Philip Maniatty <pmaniatty@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Would there be a problem adding power steering, considering that your Dodge has a three speed manual transmission?
From: George McCollam <00000386f9f13ba3-dmarc-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: L-FORWARDLOOK@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:06 PM
Subject: [FWDLK] Fw: Combining incomplet projects
On Tuesday, July 26, 2016 4:00 PM, George McCollam <mccollamge@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello: All
I'm finally getting to the spring cleaning of my garage. I find that I have several things from several different projects that I will never complete. So, what like to bounce off all of you is the idea of combining some of these diverse project parts into one project.
I have a 440 & 727 unit, and I have a 56 Dodge station wagon complete but without the baby Hemi.
What if I combine the two???..... Good Idea...Bad Idea???
I am more of a original restorer guy than a mix and match builder. But I do have these parts and I do need a driver . What is the down side and problems in fitting the 440 into the 56???
I won't get mad if anyone thinks it's a bad idea, and I won't get real happy if anyone thinks it's a good idea because it will be a lot of work.
FYI, The things that I am short on are time and money, I do have a lot of parts. The 56 Dodge wagon is a 4 door, manual steering 3 speed standard over drive trans, and in very nice condition but for paint, interior is original and in very use able condition. I do also have a coaxial power steering unit for it if needed.
So, the end result might be a 56 Dodge wagon very stock looking with a mild 440 and 727 for just running around to get parts, and groceries.
Thanks in advance for any comments.
George
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