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There are 10 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. question for Torqueflite expert..
From: Philippe COURANT <accf_clb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
2. Glass
From: "bevacqua" <tonysru2@xxxxxxx>
3. MOPAR
From: "Jerry" <mopar-man@xxxxxxxxxxx>
4. Rechroming
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Oil capacity
From: "Jerry" <mopar-man@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: Rechroming
From: Gary Nelson <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. RE: MOPARS
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Rechroming
From: moparted <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: Rechroming
From: jrcote56@xxxxxxx
10. Difference between 413/340 and 413/360?
From: doug_jones@xxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:34:31 +0200
From: Philippe COURANT <accf_clb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: question for Torqueflite expert..
Hi,
I've today disassembled a '57 Torqueflite. It seems that the unit
was overhauled some years ago by a non-expert Torqueflite man !
There was some parts missing in the front clutch (cushion spring
replaced by a steel plate..). As you expected damages to front &
rear units (ft piston retainer / thrust washer / hub / rear
return spring retainer, etc..). As there was too much play when
they assembled the trans. they put two fiber washers on the input
shaft !!
But the question is about the "rear & front pump check valve", a
spring like a hair clip which is in the regulator valve body.
This valve has a bleed orifice on one side. The FSM says: " ..the
bleed orifice is inward toward the front pump port cavity" which
i translate in" bleed orifice toward the input shaft or toward
the center of the trans".
On the today's Torqueflite the bleed orifice is outward, to the
exterior of the transmission.
I think the FSM is right but someone could confirm ? And what
happens with the bleed orifice outward ?
Thanks
--
Philippe COURANT (Pau, France)
Imperial 57 Crown convertible
Buick 58 Roadmaster sedan
- American Car Club de France (ACCF) : http://www.accf.com
- Chrysler Imperial France : http://www.ifrance.com/c-i-f
- Cadillac " Standard of Excellence " :
http://www.ifrance.com/accf-cad
- SportsCars : http://www.ifrance.com/accf-sprtcar
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 14:39:08 -0700
From: "bevacqua" <tonysru2@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Glass
My two windshields and one rear window are sold! Thank you.
Tony
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:05:26 -0400
From: "Jerry" <mopar-man@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: MOPAR
How about:
More
Online
People
Answering
Requests
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 18:39:31 -0400
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Rechroming
Hi Hardy and all,
Rechroming = touchy subject. My 2 cents' worth as follows:
1/ Always start off with the best quality pieces you can find. Avoid pitted
and ugly items. If need be take a trip to AZ or NM or some other dry
Soutwestern state where chrome just doesn't pit. In a lot of cases you will
be able to find original chrome pieces that you can just clean up and put
right on your car. They will have that original factory look, with crisp
edges and detail, that gets lost with rechromed parts.
2/ As far as rechroming anything smaller than a bumper, I have had excellent
results dealing with Lemon Grove Plating in National City, CA ( get the
phone number from information) - their prices, comparatively speaking with
other outfits, are really LOW !
Turnaround is about the same as anywhere else - a couple months. Thanks to
Mike Laiserin for finding this place and recommending it to me. Once
again, though, I have only sent them "decent" pieces, not ugly, pitted,
cracked stuff. ; my dealings with them have always been pleasant, and in the
one instance when something went awry, they made good on the disputed item
without quibble. The big attraction with Lemon Grove Plating is their
price - very very cheap as compared to any other I have tried.
Promised deadlines are usually missed by a couple weeks - not a big deal.
2/ Bumpers: the best results bar none I have ever experienced are from AIH
in Dubuque, Iowa. Truly amazing results - perfect, flawless, show chrome
you can lose yourself in ! But good stuff doesn't come cheap. Call Steve
for a price quote. Get ready to spend a lot. Find their number from the
"Sources" page on our Web site. Lifetime guarantee and all that good
stuff. I do believe bumpers are an important item on our cars, visually
speaking, and I am always willing to pay a premium for getting quality work
as far as bumpers. I have an AIH bumper that was done years ago and still
looks perfect.
Anyway, these are my positive experiences. Negative experiences : Bumper
Boys from California - junk. Their bumpers turn ugly in less than a year.
Sure they are cheaper ( by half) than AIH, but not worth it at all. Other
negative experience : Frankford Plating in Philadelphia for small parts.
Promises, promises never kept, deadlines missed by a mile, not that great
work, expensive.
Shine on !
John
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:30:49 -0400
From: "Jerry" <mopar-man@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Oil capacity
Anyone know the oil capacity for a C300? I know it's over 5 quarts but I don't recall the exact figure.
Jerry
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 22:26:25 -0700
From: Gary Nelson <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Rechroming
I second John's motion on Lemon Grove. I just spoke to John the owner
yesterday as they have a box of my parts. I have heard several times over
the last few years how good they are. All their business is word of mouth.
They do the best for the best.
What I don't know yet is cost. Glad to hear John H. say they have good
prices. They should be listed. They do not advertise.
If someone needs no. e-mail me at gwn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx The no. is at my
office.
Gary, The Parts Doc
At 06:39 PM 7/25/2002 -0400, John Hertog wrote:
>Hi Hardy and all,
>
>Rechroming = touchy subject. My 2 cents' worth as follows:
>
>1/ Always start off with the best quality pieces you can find. Avoid pitted
>and ugly items. If need be take a trip to AZ or NM or some other dry
>Soutwestern state where chrome just doesn't pit. In a lot of cases you will
>be able to find original chrome pieces that you can just clean up and put
>right on your car. They will have that original factory look, with crisp
>edges and detail, that gets lost with rechromed parts.
>
>2/ As far as rechroming anything smaller than a bumper, I have had excellent
>results dealing with Lemon Grove Plating in National City, CA ( get the
>phone number from information) - their prices, comparatively speaking with
>other outfits, are really LOW !
>Turnaround is about the same as anywhere else - a couple months. Thanks to
>Mike Laiserin for finding this place and recommending it to me. Once
>again, though, I have only sent them "decent" pieces, not ugly, pitted,
>cracked stuff. ; my dealings with them have always been pleasant, and in the
>one instance when something went awry, they made good on the disputed item
>without quibble. The big attraction with Lemon Grove Plating is their
>price - very very cheap as compared to any other I have tried.
>Promised deadlines are usually missed by a couple weeks - not a big deal.
>
>2/ Bumpers: the best results bar none I have ever experienced are from AIH
>in Dubuque, Iowa. Truly amazing results - perfect, flawless, show chrome
>you can lose yourself in ! But good stuff doesn't come cheap. Call Steve
>for a price quote. Get ready to spend a lot. Find their number from the
>"Sources" page on our Web site. Lifetime guarantee and all that good
>stuff. I do believe bumpers are an important item on our cars, visually
>speaking, and I am always willing to pay a premium for getting quality work
>as far as bumpers. I have an AIH bumper that was done years ago and still
>looks perfect.
>
>Anyway, these are my positive experiences. Negative experiences : Bumper
>Boys from California - junk. Their bumpers turn ugly in less than a year.
>Sure they are cheaper ( by half) than AIH, but not worth it at all. Other
>negative experience : Frankford Plating in Philadelphia for small parts.
>Promises, promises never kept, deadlines missed by a mile, not that great
>work, expensive.
>
>Shine on !
>
>John
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 06:53:25 -0400
From: "Vath, Michael J." <mjvath@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: MOPARS
Restoring one (or two)?
My
October
Paycheck
Already
Remitted
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles M. Kreszock [mailto:kreszockcm@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 4:45 PM
To: LOUISENYLA@xxxxxxx
Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] MOPARS
I thought it was.....
Massive
Output of
Power
And
Reliability
Mick
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 07:07:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: moparted <moparted_70@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Rechroming
i have good luck with Tri-City Plating .
www.tricityplating.com
--- John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Hardy and all,
>
> Rechroming = touchy subject. My 2 cents' worth as
> follows:
>
> 1/ Always start off with the best quality pieces you
> can find. Avoid pitted
> and ugly items. If need be take a trip to AZ or NM
> or some other dry
> Soutwestern state where chrome just doesn't pit. In
> a lot of cases you will
> be able to find original chrome pieces that you can
> just clean up and put
> right on your car. They will have that original
> factory look, with crisp
> edges and detail, that gets lost with rechromed
> parts.
>
> 2/ As far as rechroming anything smaller than a
> bumper, I have had excellent
> results dealing with Lemon Grove Plating in National
> City, CA ( get the
> phone number from information) - their prices,
> comparatively speaking with
> other outfits, are really LOW !
> Turnaround is about the same as anywhere else - a
> couple months. Thanks to
> Mike Laiserin for finding this place and
> recommending it to me. Once
> again, though, I have only sent them "decent"
> pieces, not ugly, pitted,
> cracked stuff. ; my dealings with them have always
> been pleasant, and in the
> one instance when something went awry, they made
> good on the disputed item
> without quibble. The big attraction with Lemon
> Grove Plating is their
> price - very very cheap as compared to any other I
> have tried.
> Promised deadlines are usually missed by a couple
> weeks - not a big deal.
>
> 2/ Bumpers: the best results bar none I have ever
> experienced are from AIH
> in Dubuque, Iowa. Truly amazing results - perfect,
> flawless, show chrome
> you can lose yourself in ! But good stuff doesn't
> come cheap. Call Steve
> for a price quote. Get ready to spend a lot. Find
> their number from the
> "Sources" page on our Web site. Lifetime guarantee
> and all that good
> stuff. I do believe bumpers are an important item
> on our cars, visually
> speaking, and I am always willing to pay a premium
> for getting quality work
> as far as bumpers. I have an AIH bumper that was
> done years ago and still
> looks perfect.
>
> Anyway, these are my positive experiences. Negative
> experiences : Bumper
> Boys from California - junk. Their bumpers turn
> ugly in less than a year.
> Sure they are cheaper ( by half) than AIH, but not
> worth it at all. Other
> negative experience : Frankford Plating in
> Philadelphia for small parts.
> Promises, promises never kept, deadlines missed by a
> mile, not that great
> work, expensive.
>
> Shine on !
>
> John
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:13:14 EDT
From: jrcote56@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Rechroming
My three cents worth (inflation) on the chrome..........
I have AIH Chrome bumpers on my "B" and I concur that they do flawless work
and it LASTS.
One other consideration on picking a plater is to find out what type of
chrome they use.
Trivalent form or Hexavalent form. Trivalent chrome has evolved and is used
because it has less EPA problems and requirements compared to Hex chrome. It
also flows or deposits better into the nooks and crannys in difficult
pieces. The "old" chrome that was original on our cars was "Old Hex"
(hexavalent) chrome. Small platers and the larger ones that can afford to
handle the old stuff will have chrome looking closest in color to your
original sparkling chrome.
The newer Trivalent chrome, if applied by a plater that maintains the
filtering system will look just as good and many will not be able to tell the
difference. BUT, the plater that dos NOT clean or filter his tanks contents
continuosly will result in chrome looking like it has a grey tint. Parts
done on one day may not be the same "color" if done several days later if the
"bath" is not maintained properly. Some people say that our old chrome has
a "blue" hue that makes it sparkle brightly. So if your returned chrome
looks a bit darker (than pieces not rechromed), that is the reason. It would
be better to do all pieces that will be sitting next to each other rather
than doing one piece and sticking an NOS piece on or next to it.
( As with either type of chrome, preparation of the piece with proper buffing
of the copper layer will result in a smooth surface and nice looking finished
product.)
Ask the platers which type of chrome they use and listen to word of mouth
recommendations on quality of the finished product.
As John said, its a touchy subject!!!
John R. Cote
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 11:59:43 -0600
From: doug_jones@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Difference between 413/340 and 413/360?
Hi Group,
I have a 413/340 salvaged from a '63 New Yorker. I want to install it in my '63 Pace Setter, but the optional engine for my car is listed as a 413/360. Does anybody know what modifications need to be done to this engine to change it to the correct 360 hp version? I am getting ready to take the engine to a rebuilder, so all advice greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Doug Jones
Boulder Creek, CA
'63 Pace Car
'73 Jensen Interceptor
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