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There are 8 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Torqueflite Shifting
From: jlsavard@xxxxxxx
2. Re: torqueflite trans.
From: "Steve Galezowski" <stevenlulu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
3. Re: torqueflite trans.
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
4. RE: torqueflite trans.
From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
5. Fw: Re: 57 C Door Panel Inserts
From: David R Geise <daverg@xxxxxxxx>
6. 57 C door Panel Inserts
From: David R Geise <daverg@xxxxxxxx>
7. 300C brakes - disc conversions
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
8. RE: Re: 57 C Door Panel Inserts
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 08:42:00 EDT
From: jlsavard@xxxxxxx
Subject: Torqueflite Shifting
In a message dated 6/4/03 1:16:50 AM Eastern Daylight Time, whuff@xxxxxxxxxx
writes:
> cause i was going 60 or 70 m.p.h. in my 60 300F? and a car tried to pass
> me
> >when he was way back to start with then i hit the gas and it would not
> >downshift so i could get ahead and the car eventually got right by me and
> >passed
Ok, I can't resist any longer!? What in H*LL were you doing going that fast
and trying to prevent SOME ONE ELSE from passing you?!!!? Are you writing a
country song, or what?
Joe Savard
Older and Wiser...
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 09:32:37 -0400
From: "Steve Galezowski" <stevenlulu@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: torqueflite trans.
Excellent analysis, Bill!
I don't know how to do it, but it should be possible to set up the
transmission to downshift at a higher speed. I know in my particular case I
downshift to second and full throttle upshift to third at the same speed,
about 78 mph. With 225/70/15 tires using your calcs that suggests an engine
speed of 4479 rpm. That's lower than I thought (maybe my 2nd gear ratio is
higher than 1.45?), but I know its good for my motor as previously it had
been downshifting even at 85 mph and at that speed I had no power and the
motor felt like it was overrevving. Anyway, my mechanic adjusted it so over
78 mph it doesn't downshift so it seems to me it should be possible to
adjust it in the other direction too.
Steve Galezowski
300L
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Huff" <whuff@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: <classiccars64@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:18 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] torqueflite trans.
> Even though the transmission may not automatically downshift into second
as
> a passing gear, if you are still within the torque and HP range of your
> engine, it is usually possible to manually downshift. At 60-70 MPH I
would
> think that at full throttle you could still down shift without over
revving
> the engine. I would use full throttle to avoid a severe jolt from the
> mismatch in engine and transmission output speed. I threw together some
> real rough and ready figures using a lot of assumptions to see what might
> have happened if the tranny did downshift or if you manually did so.
>
> I know post '62 727 aluminum torqueflites use a final drive ratio of
> 1.00:1 and a second gear ratio of 1.45:1. I can't find the gear ratios
for
> the cast iron torqueflite, but the second gear is probably very close to
> that of the later tranny. If we assume two different tires for a
> comparison, 235R75 x 15 and 225R70 x 15 we find the 235-75 series has a
> diameter of about 28.9" and the 225-70 series a diameter of about 27.4".
>
> Assuming a rear end ration of 3.23:1, at 70 MPH and in third gear, the
> engine would be turning 2638 RPM with the 235 tires and 2773 RPM with the
> 225 tires.
>
> A downshift to second at 70 MPH with a 1.45 second gear ratio would lead
to
> 3825 RPM with the 235 tires and 4020 RPM with the 225 tires. I believe
the
> standard 413 in the "F" developed 375 HP at 5000 RPM and the higher
> performance engine developed 400 HP at 5,200 RPM. It appears to me as
> though the engine would not be over revving.
>
> Since maximum torque develops at 2800 for the 375 HP engine and at 3600
RPM
> for the 400 HP engine, looks like you were sort of caught right in the
> middle, beyond the torque band and not really in the HP range for the
> standard 375 HP engine. I sort of feel that if you have the 400 HP
> engine, it must have been an unusually fast car to pass on by like that.
>
> Next time, slip it into second right when you think something exciting
> might develop and be sure to start accelerating earlier. You have to have
> a MUCH faster car to overcome the momentum gathered by a long head
> start. It is easy for another car to be going 20 MPH or more faster than
> you when they come even, if you wait till they are almost there to
> accelerate,...well, you know.
>
> If you do want to manually bring the engine to it's peak, I recommend an
> accurate tachometer, new valve springs are quite helpful as well.
>
> That's my Monday morning quarterback take on the situation from a few
> thousand miles away.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Huff
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I believe it depends on how the transmission is set up which in turn
depends
> on your motor's torque curve & rpm capability and your axle ratio. If you
> have a stock 413 with a 3.23? rear gear, then you wouldn't want it to
> downshift over 70 mph or you are likely to over rev the motor.
>
> Steve Galezowski
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "thomas powers" <classiccars64@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 9:07 PM
> Subject: [Chrysler300] torqueflite trans.
>
>
> >
> > Hello.
> > I have a question what speeds can a torqueflite transmission
> downshift
> > cause i was going 60 or 70 m.p.h. in my 60 300F and a car tried to
pass
> me
> > when he was way back to start with then i hit the gas and it would not
> > downshift so i could get ahead and the car eventually got right by me
and
> > passed me.But it would not have happened if the transmission would have
> went
> > into passing gear whats wrong thank you tom.
> >
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 14:57:50 -0700
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: torqueflite trans.
The old cast-iron torqueflites could not be held in 2nd gear past about 80
mph, they would upshift, even with the selector in 2. It's likely there is
a similar feature in there that limits the use of passing gear at higher
speeds.
Mike
At 01:07 AM 6/4/2003 +0000, thomas powers wrote:
>Hello.
> I have a question what speeds can a torqueflite transmission downshift
>cause i was going 60 or 70 m.p.h. in my 60 300F and a car tried to pass me
>when he was way back to start with then i hit the gas and it would not
>downshift so i could get ahead and the car eventually got right by me and
>passed me.But it would not have happened if the transmission would have went
>into passing gear whats wrong thank you tom.
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 16:28:43 -0600
From: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: torqueflite trans.
I'll throw my past experiences in on two different G's I've owned. Somewhere between 75 and 80 is where the 'natural full throttle' upshift into 3rd always seemed to occur.
There was always so much torque on hand, I never had the occasion to go for 'kickdown' at speeds above 65, just ease into it and watch the needle dive to the triple digits.
By the way, should we be doing this to cars that are almost 50 years old?
Sure, why not!
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Apfelbeck [mailto:moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:58 PM
To: thomas powers; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] torqueflite trans.
The old cast-iron torqueflites could not be held in 2nd gear past about 80
mph, they would upshift, even with the selector in 2. It's likely there is
a similar feature in there that limits the use of passing gear at higher
speeds.
Mike
At 01:07 AM 6/4/2003 +0000, thomas powers wrote:
>Hello.
> I have a question what speeds can a torqueflite transmission downshift
>cause i was going 60 or 70 m.p.h. in my 60 300F and a car tried to pass me
>when he was way back to start with then i hit the gas and it would not
>downshift so i could get ahead and the car eventually got right by me and
>passed me.But it would not have happened if the transmission would have went
>into passing gear whats wrong thank you tom.
>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 20:48:04 -0400
From: David R Geise <daverg@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Fw: Re: 57 C Door Panel Inserts
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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:23:24 -0700
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 57 C Door Panel Inserts
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Hi David and all
I got to my C aluminum door panel inserts today. David's experience rose
my
curiosity. I have not looked at mine for a couple of years.
I knew they had a pattern, but could not envision them. As we do stamping
in my business I knew it had to be a stamping process of one means or
another.
What I found it is an imprint. A form of stamping using a engraved die
that
is struck in a press just deep enough to leave the shallow pattern. An
example of imprinting is when we all see a piece of metal that has a
logo,
part no., etc. depressed into it.
This panel is not a piece that you want to polish for the reasons David
experienced. Polishing removes metal and the shallow pattern will be
gone.
There is no cost effective cure to reproduce the process. I also took a
close look at the panel finish. It is not anodized. Chrysler in the early
days used a process called bright dip. We can all relate to that as we
climb in and out of showers with an aluminum frame. That is bright dip.
Not
quite chrome, but shinny. Chrysler also used it on at least 57 to 59 300
grills. Due to weathering and the elements the bright dip is long gone to
leave dull or corroded aluminum. Brite dip is still done today just like
shower door aluminum.
At best one could use a fine steel wool or 500 to 1000 grit paper to try
and remove fine scratches. Forget any deep scratches or other damage. If
it cleans up a coat of gloss or semi clear may make them look ok.
David. There may be some salvation for you. Not to many know that 57 NY
had
the same panel. That gives you a broader base to find some. 58 may of had
them also. The pattern may have changed like they did on radio and ash
tray
back ground. If you find a pair of 58 then I won't tell.
Gary, The Parts Doc
At 02:07 PM 05/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi to All,
> A few months back, I sent my aluminum door panel inserts to "The
>Finishing Touch" in Chicago for
>cleanup/refinishing. A few of you expressed an interest in the results.
>The instructions I gave were to try
>not to remove the pattern in the metal. They came back predictably
>highly polished, which I could deal
>with, but with all traces of the pattern removed. I was told beforehand
>that if I wanted a dull or satin finish,
>I could have them anodized, a service they did not offer.
> When questioned about the pattern, I was told this came off
early-on
>in the polishing procedure because
>it had been applied only to the surface at the factory. I had to agree
>that had it been a stamping process,
>it most certainly would have been able to be seen or felt from the
>underside, which it wasn't.
> I welcome your comments as to how this pattern was originally
>applied and how it could be duplicated.
>I posed this question to Gary G. as he at one time was trying to have
>them reproduced and would be in a
>position to know the process. I am assuming that these inserts are a
>scarce commodity if a reproduction
>project was in the works. Will relay any response from Gary to the
>group.
>
> Regards,
> Dave Geise
> 57 C in NJ
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2003 21:55:41 -0400
From: David R Geise <daverg@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: 57 C door Panel Inserts
Hi to All,
Response from Gary Goers indicated that the project to reproduce the
inserts was to be done by the guy from Sweden that did the sill plates.
For whatever reasons, the inserts are not going to be made at this time.
Gary feels that the pattern was indeed a stamping operation, although a
shallow one. Refer to the post from Gary Nelson for a an excellent
insight on what is going on with these inserts.
Regards,
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2003 23:46:43 -0400
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 300C brakes - disc conversions
Hi Gary,
I remember communicating with Nick Conrad about your Swiss 300C, and he did
explain to me that it was indeed converted to discs while in Switzerland,
early on. Did he mention Corvette parts were used? I forget.... If this
current conversion is giving you problems, I suggest that you purchase and
install one of the two currently available FRONT disc conversions. I
strongly suggest that you leave the rear drum setup alone.
Either of these conversions will fit under the front 14" stock rims. If you
are very mechanically adept, you can save yourself some money and make your
own using Dan Reitz's blueprints. Contact Don Reitz for more info at :
Dan300F@xxxxxxx or check out the article at :
http://crossrams.com/disc/neanderthal.html
As far as the two conversions, they are available from
1/ Stainless Steel Brake
11470 Main Rd
Clarence, NY 14031
800-448-7722
www.ssbrakes.com
I did install such a kit, and it was an easy job. I took pictures, which you
can view at:
http://www.crossrams.com/rinaldi/discbrake/main.html
and you can also read an article about this at:
http://www.moparmusclemagazine.com/howto/26038/
2/ AAJ Brake
Located in Portland, Oregon (503) 890-1469
http://www.aajbrakes.bravepages.com/
I have not seen or installed their product.
Hope this helps,
sincerely,
John Hertog
Sag Harbor NY
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From: "Gary Gettleman" <Gary@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 11:14 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] 300C brakes
> my car was converted to disc brakes (front) very early in its life.
Conversion was done by chrysler? dealer in Zurich, Switzerland. I would
like to convert to a good old USA disc set-up ( four wheel). Any
suggestions
> Gary Gettleman
> G&G Associates
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 06:57:21 -0400
From: Mark Souders <souders@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Re: 57 C Door Panel Inserts
Good morning group,
A few years ago I cleaned up the grill of my 62 Sport Fury, which I thought
was anodized but turned out to be bright dipped also. First I sanded the
dark spots with 600 grit dry, then sanded the whole grill with 1000 wet.
Then, just for fun I machine polished it with white compound, which really
made it shine. It wasn't embossed so I didn't have to worry about wiping
out any detail except for the black painted lines. I cleaned the compound
out of the thousands of little square holes using my parts washer. After
painting on the black lines, I sprayed on some clear coat urethane thinned 1
to 1. Four years later it was still the shiniest part on the whole car.
Mark Souders
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David R Geise [SMTP:daverg@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 8:48 PM
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Fw: Re: [Chrysler300] 57 C Door Panel Inserts
>
>
> --------- Forwarded message ----------
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> To: David R Geise <daverg@xxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:23:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 57 C Door Panel Inserts
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> Hi David and all
>
> I got to my C aluminum door panel inserts today. David's experience rose
> my
> curiosity. I have not looked at mine for a couple of years.
> I knew they had a pattern, but could not envision them. As we do stamping
>
> in my business I knew it had to be a stamping process of one means or
> another.
> What I found it is an imprint. A form of stamping using a engraved die
> that
> is struck in a press just deep enough to leave the shallow pattern. An
> example of imprinting is when we all see a piece of metal that has a
> logo,
> part no., etc. depressed into it.
> This panel is not a piece that you want to polish for the reasons David
> experienced. Polishing removes metal and the shallow pattern will be
> gone.
> There is no cost effective cure to reproduce the process. I also took a
> close look at the panel finish. It is not anodized. Chrysler in the early
>
> days used a process called bright dip. We can all relate to that as we
> climb in and out of showers with an aluminum frame. That is bright dip.
> Not
> quite chrome, but shinny. Chrysler also used it on at least 57 to 59 300
> grills. Due to weathering and the elements the bright dip is long gone to
>
> leave dull or corroded aluminum. Brite dip is still done today just like
> shower door aluminum.
> At best one could use a fine steel wool or 500 to 1000 grit paper to try
> and remove fine scratches. Forget any deep scratches or other damage. If
>
> it cleans up a coat of gloss or semi clear may make them look ok.
> David. There may be some salvation for you. Not to many know that 57 NY
> had
> the same panel. That gives you a broader base to find some. 58 may of had
>
> them also. The pattern may have changed like they did on radio and ash
> tray
> back ground. If you find a pair of 58 then I won't tell.
>
> Gary, The Parts Doc
>
>
> At 02:07 PM 05/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi to All,
> > A few months back, I sent my aluminum door panel inserts to "The
> >Finishing Touch" in Chicago for
> >cleanup/refinishing. A few of you expressed an interest in the results.
> >The instructions I gave were to try
> >not to remove the pattern in the metal. They came back predictably
> >highly polished, which I could deal
> >with, but with all traces of the pattern removed. I was told beforehand
> >that if I wanted a dull or satin finish,
> >I could have them anodized, a service they did not offer.
> > When questioned about the pattern, I was told this came off
> early-on
> >in the polishing procedure because
> >it had been applied only to the surface at the factory. I had to agree
> >that had it been a stamping process,
> >it most certainly would have been able to be seen or felt from the
> >underside, which it wasn't.
> > I welcome your comments as to how this pattern was originally
> >applied and how it could be duplicated.
> >I posed this question to Gary G. as he at one time was trying to have
> >them reproduced and would be in a
> >position to know the process. I am assuming that these inserts are a
> >scarce commodity if a reproduction
> >project was in the works. Will relay any response from Gary to the
> >group.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave Geise
> > 57 C in NJ
> >
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