RE: Re: [Chrysler300] 57 C Door Panel Inserts

[Mark Souders <souders@xxxx>]

Good morning group,
A few years ago I cleaned up the grill of my 62 Sport Fury, which I thought
was anodized but turned out to be bright dipped also. First I sanded the
dark spots with 600 grit dry, then sanded the whole grill with 1000 wet.
Then, just for fun I machine polished it with white compound, which really
made it shine. It wasn't embossed so I didn't have to worry about wiping
out any detail except for the black painted lines. I cleaned the compound
out of the thousands of little square holes using my parts washer. After
painting on the black lines, I sprayed on some clear coat urethane thinned 1
to 1. Four years later it was still the shiniest part on the whole car.

Mark Souders


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> Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2003 22:23:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 57 C Door Panel Inserts
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> Hi David and all
> 
> I got to my C aluminum door panel inserts today. David's experience rose
> my 
> curiosity. I have not looked at mine for a couple of years.
> I knew they had a pattern, but could not envision them. As we do stamping
> 
> in my business I knew it had to be a stamping process of one means or
> another.
> What I found it is an imprint. A form of stamping using a engraved die
> that 
> is struck in a press just deep enough to leave the shallow pattern. An 
> example of imprinting is when we all see a piece of metal that has a
> logo, 
> part no., etc. depressed into it.
> This panel is not a piece that you want to polish for the reasons David 
> experienced. Polishing removes metal and the shallow pattern will be
> gone.
> There is no cost effective cure to reproduce the process. I also took a 
> close look at the panel finish. It is not anodized. Chrysler in the early
> 
> days used a process called bright dip. We can all relate to that as we 
> climb in and out of showers with an aluminum frame. That is bright dip.
> Not 
> quite chrome, but shinny. Chrysler also used it on at least 57 to 59 300 
> grills. Due to weathering and the elements the bright dip is long gone to
> 
> leave dull or corroded aluminum. Brite dip is still done today just like 
> shower door aluminum.
> At best one could use a fine steel wool or 500 to 1000 grit paper to try 
> and remove fine scratches. Forget any deep scratches or other damage. If
> 
> it cleans up a coat of gloss or semi clear may make them look ok.
> David. There may be some salvation for you. Not to many know that 57 NY
> had 
> the same panel. That gives you a broader base to find some. 58 may of had
> 
> them also. The pattern may have changed like they did on radio and ash
> tray 
> back ground. If you find a pair of 58 then I won't tell.
> 
> Gary, The Parts Doc
> 
> 
> At 02:07 PM 05/29/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> >Hi to All,
> > A few months back, I sent my aluminum door panel inserts to "The
> >Finishing Touch" in Chicago for
> >cleanup/refinishing. A few of you expressed an interest in the results.
> >The instructions I gave were to try
> >not to remove the pattern in the metal. They came back predictably
> >highly polished, which I could deal
> >with, but with all traces of the pattern removed. I was told beforehand
> >that if I wanted a dull or satin finish,
> >I could have them anodized, a service they did not offer.
> > When questioned about the pattern, I was told this came off
> early-on
> >in the polishing procedure because
> >it had been applied only to the surface at the factory. I had to agree
> >that had it been a stamping process,
> >it most certainly would have been able to be seen or felt from the
> >underside, which it wasn't.
> > I welcome your comments as to how this pattern was originally
> >applied and how it could be duplicated.
> >I posed this question to Gary G. as he at one time was trying to have
> >them reproduced and would be in a
> >position to know the process. I am assuming that these inserts are a
> >scarce commodity if a reproduction
> >project was in the works. Will relay any response from Gary to the
> >group.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Dave Geise
> > 57 C in NJ
> >
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