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There are 18 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

      1. Re: Tach cable 300H
           From: barjam300@xxxxxxx
      2. Re: Artist rendition of Letter Series
           From: barjam300@xxxxxxx
      3. Power Steering Mount/Belt
           From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      4. exhaust manifold
           From: "my69300" <tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
      5. Kevin Adams/ ripped off
           From: "Larri Stumpf" <moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      6. Oil pressure lines for 57 300 with a/c
           From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      7. RE: Kevin Adams/ ripped off
           From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      8. Re: Power Steering Mount/Belt
           From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
      9. Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped off
           From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     10. Re: P/S Fluid & Fuel Lines
           From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
     11. Re: exhaust manifold
           From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     12. Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped off
           From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
     13. Re: P/S Fluid & Fuel Lines
           From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     14. Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped off
           From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
     15. Kevin Adams/ ripped off - reply
           From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
     16. Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped off - reply
           From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
     17. Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped of
           From: William Huff <whuff@xxxxxxxxxx>
     18. Hot Runnin' 413!
           From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>


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Message: 1
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 08:33:37 EDT
   From: barjam300@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Tach cable 300H

In addition to what Gil found, I have been told that you can buy a new cable
assembly
from a Catapillar dealer that will fit right in. The length may not be
exactly the same, but it's new, off the shelf and works. I don't have any numbers,
just know it was done recently.
300'ly yours,
Jim Bartuska


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Message: 2
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 08:52:26 EDT
   From: barjam300@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Artist rendition of Letter Series

To the Group,
If having an artist do an individual picture of your car is not in your
future but you would like some garage art of you year Letter Series car, Club
member Monte Gillespie of Granger, Indiana did sketches of each years car and still
has them available. He's listed in the current Club roster.
300'ly yours,
Jim Bartuska  


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Message: 3
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:05:10 -0700
   From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Power Steering Mount/Belt

For our '62 300 we have a later power steering pump mount, which doesn't
require you to pull up & out to make the belt adjustment; only up.

I have 2 new belts (9435's), as I have 2 '62's.  Both belts seem too
long as when on the pulleys and adjusted out they have about 3" play in
them.

The pulley on the pump is the correct 5.5" pulley.

 

Does anyone know if the older style mounts have more "pull" on their
adjustment?  Or maybe I have 2 belts that are oddly made too big from
the manufacturer.

Maybe I need to try the older mount.if I kept it?

Anyone know the correct diameter of the belt, so I can check these?

 

Thanks!!!



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Message: 4
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:57:40 -0000
   From: "my69300" <tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: exhaust manifold

Is there a difference between the tnt exhaust manifold
and the so called high performance manifold for the
440?
Chris
69 300



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Message: 5
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 08:24:54 -0700
   From: "Larri Stumpf" <moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Kevin Adams/ ripped off

What is the protocol as to recourse within the club if you feel youve been
"ripped off" by a fellow member? I feel that I should'nt just sit back and 
let another member get ripped. This member kept telling me how great his
parts were and what a deal he was giving me, sent the money, waited too long
for the parts and when they finally arrived they werent even close to his
discription and not all of the agreed parts were there.Tried e-mail after
e-mail to discuss the issue and he would never answer me.Told him that I
would send the parts back and just give me my $500.00 back, no response,
told him I would keep the parts and he could send me half my money back, no
response.Told him that he could do nothing and  I would have to live with
it, that was the option he took.Sadly, buyer beware from a fellow member. I
will go into detail as to the parts in question and can take pictures of 
the broken/dented/pitted taillites, astrodome, bezels, etc. if someone needs
more proof, larri.

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Message: 6
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:27:11 -0600
   From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Oil pressure lines for 57 300 with a/c

Hi group,
Where does one get new oil pressure lines for a 57 with a/c?
The one from the engine up to the guage started to leak today- luckily I haven't done anything to the interior yet, so just some oil on the floor pan and behind the dash.

I might as well change the rest of them at the same time (the a/c actuator lines will undoubtedly go next).
I doubt they are NAPA items, but I'll check.
Thanks,
John

-----Original Message-----
From: my69300 [mailto:tubman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 10:58 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] exhaust manifold


Is there a difference between the tnt exhaust manifold
and the so called high performance manifold for the
440?
Chris
69 300



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Message: 7
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 09:40:14 -0700
   From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Kevin Adams/ ripped off

I don't know what to tell you.  I have been trying to get my H back from
a fellow member that I loaned to have cast two years ago.  There really
isn't recourse.  However, I have dealt with many club members and have
had always great situations otherwise.  I think that you have done what
there is to do.  Warn the club.  This isn't a Chevy club with unlimited
members, parts, support and parts dealers, so that may be enough.  The
300 world is a little world and too little to screw with people without
it coming back to bite you.

Let us hope that Kevin Adams and Bruce Hertzberg find this to true and
rectify the situations with both of us.
Jennifer

-----Original Message-----
From: Larri Stumpf [mailto:moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] Kevin Adams/ ripped off

What is the protocol as to recourse within the club if you feel youve
been
"ripped off" by a fellow member? I feel that I should'nt just sit back
and 
let another member get ripped. This member kept telling me how great his

parts were and what a deal he was giving me, sent the money, waited too
long
for the parts and when they finally arrived they werent even close to
his
discription and not all of the agreed parts were there.Tried e-mail
after
e-mail to discuss the issue and he would never answer me.Told him that I

would send the parts back and just give me my $500.00 back, no response,

told him I would keep the parts and he could send me half my money back,
no
response.Told him that he could do nothing and  I would have to live
with
it, that was the option he took.Sadly, buyer beware from a fellow
member. I
will go into detail as to the parts in question and can take pictures of

the broken/dented/pitted taillites, astrodome, bezels, etc. if someone
needs
more proof, larri.

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Message: 8
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 12:04:19 -0500
   From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Power Steering Mount/Belt

Hi;
Set your PS pump at the lower setting, that is for the smallest belt. Then
wrap a rope around the drive pully and the pump pulley and any other pulleys
the belt goes over. Mark the rope where the end meets the rope and you've
got the approximate size (length). Measure the width of the pulley grove,
and trot off to the parts house. The only other thing you need to know is
the type of belt and/or the v grove angle. Quite often the belt # tells the
size in length in centimeters, which makes it easy to adjust up or down to
get a better fit.

Have fun, Ray Jones

> From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 06:05:10 -0700
> To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Chrysler300] Power Steering Mount/Belt
>
> For our '62 300 we have a later power steering pump mount, which doesn't
> require you to pull up & out to make the belt adjustment; only up.
>
> I have 2 new belts (9435's), as I have 2 '62's.  Both belts seem too
> long as when on the pulleys and adjusted out they have about 3" play in
> them.
>
> The pulley on the pump is the correct 5.5" pulley.
>
>
>
> Does anyone know if the older style mounts have more "pull" on their
> adjustment?  Or maybe I have 2 belts that are oddly made too big from
> the manufacturer.
>
> Maybe I need to try the older mount.if I kept it?
>
> Anyone know the correct diameter of the belt, so I can check these?
>
>
>
> Thanks!!!
>
>
>
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Message: 9
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 10:15:35 -0700
   From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped off


As a contrast, I did have one satisfactory blind faith dealing with a club
member that I (still) do not know except by name. I helped him and he
likewise held up his end of the deal. I will try to help again and hope I do
not fall prey to anyone that is not on the up and up. Bad can happen in any
dealing, professional or hobby or - - - -.

Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ



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Message: 10
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:03:13 -0700
   From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: P/S Fluid & Fuel Lines

Jennifer,

There is a special fluid for all Chrysler products power steering available at most any part store.  The brand I use is Sta Lube SL2641, it is called Power Steering Fluid Pre '89 Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth.  ATF is NOT recommended, not sure why.

On your second question, you should not experience rusting on steel fuel lines as they are plated, like brake lines, to resist corrosion.  I believe the plating is tin or zinc or a combination of both.  The only other suggestion, is to go with stainless steel lines.

Bob J

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: jennifer allyn
  To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:02 PM
  Subject: [Chrysler300] P/S Fluid & Fuel Lines


  For a 1962 300 Sport.

  

  1. What type of power steering fluid is recommended?  Just plain old
  ATF?

  

  2. What is a good finish for the hard fuel lines?  I have the hard lines
  going from the fuel pump, then to the pair of 4 barrels.  How do I keep
  them from getting a surface rust on them?



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Message: 11
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:04:27 -0700
   From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: exhaust manifold

The left side high-perf style exhaust manifolds on the C bodies are a
slightly different shape than the B&E body cars, probably for clearance
reasons.
Mike

At 02:57 PM 7/19/2003 +0000, my69300 wrote:
>Is there a difference between the tnt exhaust manifold
>and the so called high performance manifold for the
>440?
>Chris
>69 300
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Message: 12
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:25:28 EDT
   From: moparpjf@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped off

In a message dated 07/19/2003 1:14:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:


> As a contrast, I did have one satisfactory blind faith dealing with a club
> member that I (still) do not know except by name. I helped him and he
> likewise held up his end of the deal. I will try to help again and hope I do
> not fall prey to anyone that is not on the up and up. Bad can happen in any
> dealing, professional or hobby or - - - -.
>
> Warren Anderson
>

I think it is the rule that the members of this club are fair and trust
worthy with each other.  There might be honest disagreements between them at times,
but it is seldom indeed that one of us actually rips off another.  It is too
bad that such things happen, especially among members, but I guess there are
always a couple of rotten apples in the barrel.

Pete Fitch


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Message: 13
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 11:53:27 -0700
   From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: P/S Fluid & Fuel Lines

Power steering fluid has superior wear protection, compared to ATF, in
power steering gears. Either one will work but your pump will last longer
with power steering fluid in the system.
Mike

At 11:03 AM 7/19/2003 -0700, Bob Jasinski wrote:

>There is a special fluid for all Chrysler products power steering
>available at most any part store.  The brand I use is Sta Lube SL2641, it
>is called Power Steering Fluid Pre '89 Chrysler, Dodge, Plymouth.  ATF is
>NOT recommended, not sure why.




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Message: 14
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 13:28:05 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped off

Larri,
Sorry to hear about your deal not being satisfactory. I have only been in the club less than two years and have found the members I have had dealings with to be absolutely fair and above board. Maybe a "card shower" from other members via Email would get his attention but my club roster doesn't show a Kevin Adams. Are you sure he is actually a member or is he just claiming to be for sales purposes? If you have an address, phone or Email for him, I for one will be glad to let him know this is not the way we operate.

Probably won't do any good from what you described but if enough of us let him know, he might re-think his tactics.
Also, if enough others have had similar dealings with him, there should be some way to either get him out of the club or restrict his advertising privileges.

How did you get hooked up with him? Was it thru this Yahoo Group, the club newsletter, or some other way?
As someone else said, "there can be bad apples in any barrel" but the best way to prevent the whole barrel from being affected is to throw 'em out.

Okie Bob

Larri Stumpf <moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
What is the protocol as to recourse within the club if you feel youve been
"ripped off" by a fellow member? I feel that I should'nt just sit back and 
let another member get ripped. This member kept telling me how great his
parts were and what a deal he was giving me, sent the money, waited too long
for the parts and when they finally arrived they werent even close to his
discription and not all of the agreed parts were there.Tried e-mail after
e-mail to discuss the issue and he would never answer me.Told him that I
would send the parts back and just give me my $500.00 back, no response,
told him I would keep the parts and he could send me half my money back, no
response.Told him that he could do nothing and  I would have to live with
it, that was the option he took.Sadly, buyer beware from a fellow member. I
will go into detail as to the parts in question and can take pictures of 
the broken/dented/pitted taillites, astrodome, bezels, etc. if someone needs
more proof, larri.

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Message: 15
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 16:34:40 -0400
   From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Kevin Adams/ ripped off - reply

Hi Larri,

Your e-mail merits a semi-official answer.  Speaking as an officer of the
Club  (but NOT on behalf of the other officers), here is what I have to say:

1/ You have made the on-line group aware of your disagreement with Kevin
Adams;  since Kevin is also on the listserver, he will undoubtedly read your
note. Hopefully this will suffice to reestablish communications (privately)
between you two, and the difference can be resolved in a friendly manner, as
it should be.

2/ You ask: "What is the protocol as to recourse within the club if you feel
you've been
"ripped off" by a fellow member?"    The answer is: under Article X of the
Club's Constitution, section 2 : "any individual member may prefer charges
against another member, specifying the particular acts complained of. All
charges must be made in writing and signed and sworn to by the complaining
member. All charges must be filed with the Secretary  (Gloria Moon) and
entered in full in the minutes of a regular meeting of the General
Membership.   .....  section 3 then states that the Exec. Com., with the
advise and consent of 2/3 majority of the members present at a business
meeting, can then impose penalties, uncluding fine, reprimand, suspension
and expulsion... etc...

Hope this answers your questions. Also hope that this matter will be
resolved amicably between you two.  I am sure that you, Larri, will let us
all know the outcome, especially if it is a positive resolution of the
disagreement.

Sincerely

John Hertog

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larri Stumpf" <moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Kevin Adams/ ripped off


> What is the protocol as to recourse within the club if you feel youve been
> "ripped off" by a fellow member? I feel that I should'nt just sit back and
> let another member get ripped. This member kept telling me how great his
> parts were and what a deal he was giving me, sent the money, waited too
long
> for the parts and when they finally arrived they werent even close to his
> discription and not all of the agreed parts were there.Tried e-mail after
> e-mail to discuss the issue and he would never answer me.Told him that I
> would send the parts back and just give me my $500.00 back, no response,
> told him I would keep the parts and he could send me half my money back,
no
> response.Told him that he could do nothing and  I would have to live with
> it, that was the option he took.Sadly, buyer beware from a fellow member.
I
> will go into detail as to the parts in question and can take pictures of
> the broken/dented/pitted taillites, astrodome, bezels, etc. if someone
needs
> more proof, larri.
>
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Message: 16
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 14:45:28 -0700 (PDT)
   From: Robert Merritt <okbobwynmer@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped off - reply

John,
Thanks for your explanation of the proper protocol on handling disagreements between club members. After reading it I am sorry I "popped off" and would like to retract my previous suggestion. {I wish I could delete it}.

 
What I suggested amounts to a form of vigilante justice and since this whole thing should be a private matter handled per club rules, I hope no one takes my suggestion seriously and starts cluttering this site with could be an honest difference of opinion.

After this I'll try to make sure my brain is in gear before I start revvin' my motor.
Okie Bob
John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Larri,

Your e-mail merits a semi-official answer.  Speaking as an officer of the
Club  (but NOT on behalf of the other officers), here is what I have to say:

1/ You have made the on-line group aware of your disagreement with Kevin
Adams;  since Kevin is also on the listserver, he will undoubtedly read your
note. Hopefully this will suffice to reestablish communications (privately)
between you two, and the difference can be resolved in a friendly manner, as
it should be.

2/ You ask: "What is the protocol as to recourse within the club if you feel
you've been
"ripped off" by a fellow member?"    The answer is: under Article X of the
Club's Constitution, section 2 : "any individual member may prefer charges
against another member, specifying the particular acts complained of. All
charges must be made in writing and signed and sworn to by the complaining
member. All charges must be filed with the Secretary  (Gloria Moon) and
entered in full in the minutes of a regular meeting of the General
Membership.   .....  section 3 then states that the Exec. Com., with the
advise and consent of 2/3 majority of the members present at a business
meeting, can then impose penalties, uncluding fine, reprimand, suspension
and expulsion... etc...

Hope this answers your questions. Also hope that this matter will be
resolved amicably between you two.  I am sure that you, Larri, will let us
all know the outcome, especially if it is a positive resolution of the
disagreement.

Sincerely

John Hertog

----- Original Message -----
From: "Larri Stumpf" <moparlarri76@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:24 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Kevin Adams/ ripped off


> What is the protocol as to recourse within the club if you feel youve been
> "ripped off" by a fellow member? I feel that I should'nt just sit back and
> let another member get ripped. This member kept telling me how great his
> parts were and what a deal he was giving me, sent the money, waited too
long
> for the parts and when they finally arrived they werent even close to his
> discription and not all of the agreed parts were there.Tried e-mail after
> e-mail to discuss the issue and he would never answer me.Told him that I
> would send the parts back and just give me my $500.00 back, no response,
> told him I would keep the parts and he could send me half my money back,
no
> response.Told him that he could do nothing and  I would have to live with
> it, that was the option he took.Sadly, buyer beware from a fellow member.
I
> will go into detail as to the parts in question and can take pictures of
> the broken/dented/pitted taillites, astrodome, bezels, etc. if someone
needs
> more proof, larri.
>
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Message: 17
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:25:20 -0500
   From: William Huff <whuff@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Kevin Adams/ ripped of

Hi Larri and Group,

One always hopes that disputes can be resolved without involving outside
authorities, but if it is necessary, there are avenues available, depending
how upset or how determined you may be to find justice.

If you have any unfulfilled written descriptions or promises from this
person, whether by snail mail or email, then you have a basis to go to
small claims court (unless he is thousands of miles away).  This usually
takes a small fee and you self represent yourself, but I think you have to
actually show up in the jurisdiction where the claim is made.

You can try writing to the Attorney General in his area claiming he
defrauded you.

If you sent payment by USPS, you can file a fraud claim with the post
office.   That is one of the reasons I try to use a USPS money order when
ordering expensive parts from unproven sources.  If you used a credit card
to pay, you can have your credit card company with hold or recall payment
until the dispute is settled.

I have found that most people in general, not only the ones in this club,
are honest and forthright, but there is always someone around trying to
destroy one's trust in human nature.

Bill Huff



  This member kept telling me how great his parts were and what a deal he
was giving me, sent the money, waited too long for the parts and when they
finally arrived they weren't even close to his description and not all of
the agreed parts were there.Tried e-mail after e-mail to discuss the issue
and he would never answer me.Told him that I would send the parts back and
just give me my $500.00 back, no response,



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Message: 18
   Date: Sat, 19 Jul 2003 17:11:05 -0700
   From: "jennifer allyn" <gearhead.girl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Hot Runnin' 413!

To keep a big block cool is it suggested going with a 4 core radiator?
(I believe the factory gave us 3 cores.)

I run a 160 thermostat; have a new fan clutch, 7 pound radiator cap, new
hoses all around, new water pump and a clean block.

Thanks?



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