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There are 18 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. FW: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
2. Re: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for413Cast Iron 727 Dr...
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
3. High Speed STarter
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
4. Trivia
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
5. Re: Trivia
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
6. Re: Trivia
From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
7. Re: Trivia
From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
8. Re: FW: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
From: <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Re: FW: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
10. Letter Trade ANyone??
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
11. Seat Belt Hardware FS??
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: FW: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
13. Forgot to take to the Dayton Swaps
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
14. High Speed Starters for '55-'61 Chrysler 300s
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: High Speed Starters for '55-'61 Chrysler 300s
From: "Charlie Valentine" <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>
16. E-bay item question
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
17. Re: E-bay item question
From: jlsavard@xxxxxxx
18. Factory parts books and all those part numbers.......
From: "Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 09:37:31 -0400
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: FW: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
Hi to all,
The message below is self explanatory. There is a source for high speed
starters for '61 and earlier Mopars from Tim Wood @ Road Runner Starters. We
need to supply the OE part #s.
Can someone help with the right respective numbers for '55; '56-'58 and '59
thru '61 so that I may ask for price and availability for anyone who may be
interested.
Be best to post the part numbers and have this discussion on our server and
then I will contact Tim with one consolidated and verified message.
Owen Grigg recommended this contact. Thank you Owen!
Tony Rinaldi
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From: Road Runner Starters <tim.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 09:00:18 +1200
To: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for
413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
Hi Tony, we manufacture a number of high performance starters to suit the
early Mopars.
There are 3 different starters that pre date the 62 and later T/Flite
starters, there are also 2 different
pitch 9 tooth pinions (25mm dia. and 29mm dia.this does'nt include
commercial,industrial and marine of which there are more!) E-mail the OE
part #'s you are after and we'll
go from there. Thanks for the inquiry. Regards Tim.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
To: Owen & Jo Grigg <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>; <tim.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Chrysler 300 Club <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for
413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:07:42 EDT
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for413Cast Iron 727 Dr...
Hi all:
Just got back from the meet so I did not read messages until now.
Back in the late 70's, I designed, built and patented a 2-stroke internal
combustion engine. I was running 17:1 compression. When I went to start it, the
starter (Bosch starter from a Porsche) would hardly turn it. Went to a
local automotive electrical shop and they said they would put additional windings
in the starter. That did the trick. It turned the engine as if there was
little or no compression.
Wonder if it would work on our starters? The shop closed its doors years ago
so I cannot ask them.
By the way, with 17:1 compression, I had to down size the main jets to 50% of
original cross-sectional area to get it to start.
Dan Reitz
Northridge, CA
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 10:53:59 EDT
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
Subject: High Speed STarter
For what it's worth, some 30 years ago, I was having trouble with starting my
300D when it was hot. The local car electric shop put in what he called
"high-torque field coils", which he said were merely the field coils from a six
volt starter ('55 or earlier). Such starter coils were fairly available back
then. But since they were installed, the starter has never failed to spin the
old hemi. McTaggart
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 11:56:28 EDT
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
Subject: Trivia
One last bit of fun from the Dayton meet. Look at your metal meet plaque
that was in your meet packet. Who can be the first to identify an error. And
Eleanor, you are not eligible to participate!
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:04:53 -0700
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Trivia
Hi Terry,
The colors in the 300 club logo are reversed! Will these meet plaques
become valuable collectors items now?
Congratulations again on a great meet. I drove straight through and got
home at 3:45 this A\M
300ly,
Don
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From: <pennsy300@xxxxxxx>
To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 8:56 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Trivia
One last bit of fun from the Dayton meet. Look at your metal meet plaque
that was in your meet packet. Who can be the first to identify an error.
And
Eleanor, you are not eligible to participate!
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:50:01 -0400
From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Trivia
Terry,
Just got home from the meet (Monday, 11:15 AM), and am now just checking the mountain of e-mail.
Great meet, by the way.
Should it be 33rd Annual Fall Meet, and not National. After all, the club in international.
Don Warnaar
----- Original Message -----
From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:56 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Trivia
One last bit of fun from the Dayton meet. Look at your metal meet plaque
that was in your meet packet. Who can be the first to identify an error. And
Eleanor, you are not eligible to participate!
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 12:53:09 -0400
From: "Don Warnaar" <300country@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Trivia
Terry,
Just saw Don Verity's answer, which is of course correct, and a major error. However, I think my answer is also correct. All our members outside of the USA should agree.
Don Warnaar
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From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 11:56 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Trivia
One last bit of fun from the Dayton meet. Look at your metal meet plaque
that was in your meet packet. Who can be the first to identify an error. And
Eleanor, you are not eligible to participate!
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:27:56 -0400
From: <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: FW: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
Tony,
According to my parts book:
'55 is 1604 480
'56 is 1642 140
'57 & '58 is 1842 562
Jim Faber
>
> From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: 2003/09/08 Mon AM 09:37:31 EDT
> To: Chrysler 300 Club <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> CC: Owen & Jo Grigg <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: FW: [Chrysler300] Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for
> 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
>
> Hi to all,
>
> The message below is self explanatory. There is a source for high speed
> starters for '61 and earlier Mopars from Tim Wood @ Road Runner Starters. We
> need to supply the OE part #s.
>
> Can someone help with the right respective numbers for '55; '56-'58 and '59
> thru '61 so that I may ask for price and availability for anyone who may be
> interested.
>
> Be best to post the part numbers and have this discussion on our server and
> then I will contact Tim with one consolidated and verified message.
>
> Owen Grigg recommended this contact. Thank you Owen!
>
> Tony Rinaldi
>
> ------ Forwarded Message
> From: Road Runner Starters <tim.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 09:00:18 +1200
> To: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for
> 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
>
> Hi Tony, we manufacture a number of high performance starters to suit the
> early Mopars.
> There are 3 different starters that pre date the 62 and later T/Flite
> starters, there are also 2 different
> pitch 9 tooth pinions (25mm dia. and 29mm dia.this does'nt include
> commercial,industrial and marine of which there are more!) E-mail the OE
> part #'s you are after and we'll
> go from there. Thanks for the inquiry. Regards Tim.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: Owen & Jo Grigg <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>; <tim.wood@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Chrysler 300 Club <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 1:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for
> 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
>
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>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:34:11 -0700
From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: FW: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
According to my parts book:
'55 is 1604 480
'56 is 1642 140
'57 & '58 is 1842 562
Are these Chrysler numbers the ones that an electrical shop needs or do they
use the Prestolite numbers that are stamped on the starter case? Like, for
my '55 I think the number is MCL-6304, or maybe not but that is the number
that is the reference number used in my parts books.
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:22:09 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Letter Trade ANyone??
I have an NOS ORIGINAL "Y" letter for the nose of a 57-59 Chrysler 300.
(Still in the little MoPart Parts paper bag)
Anyone have an extra "E" or "R" they want to trade that is in nice shape?????
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 16:44:10 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Seat Belt Hardware FS??
I have some "Vintage" seatbelt hardware. Probably aftermarket
but is from approximately 1962. The Brand is "Yankee" Auto seat belt.
The Correct bolts, washers, and mounting hardware from these
belts kits is still factory fresh, a nice bright chromate plate finish.
They have never been installed. I have enough for 5 seat belts.
(I am keeping the buckles and getting them re-webbed with new material,
these were the delux models from Yankee)
Anyone interested???
(I know some of you out there have miss-matched hardware in your
cars. This is a chance to get safety approved, period hardware
that matches if you are interested.)
I can supply pictures to any interested folks!!
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2003 10:58:13 +1200
From: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: FW: Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
Think Tim works off the numbers on the actual starter and more likely the
Autolite #.
'57 & '58 Autolite #MDL 6001 and Chrysler #1689 342
Tim has my original starter from my 300C at his shop at present, he is
rebuilding that & supplying me with a high speed unit as well. I used one of
these in a '57 NYer I had, really wizzed that hemi over.
Just reading the specs on these aftermarket units he supplies......
4.4- 1 GEAR REDUCTION
WEIGHS UNDER 9 LBS
525 FT/LBS OF TORQUE!!!!!
DURABLE, COMPACT, & HEAT RESISTANT
I do know that Tim will be in the US in October, maybe you could convince
him to bring a few starters with him as carry on luggage. Afterall they are
only 9lbs...
Owen
----- Original Message -----
From: Warren R Anderson <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>; Chrysler 300 Club
<Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Owen & Jo Grigg <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: FW: [Chrysler300] Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for
413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
According to my parts book:
'55 is 1604 480
'56 is 1642 140
'57 & '58 is 1842 562
Are these Chrysler numbers the ones that an electrical shop needs or do they
use the Prestolite numbers that are stamped on the starter case? Like, for
my '55 I think the number is MCL-6304, or maybe not but that is the number
that is the reference number used in my parts books.
Warren Anderson
Sedona,AZ
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 17:24:56 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Forgot to take to the Dayton Swaps
I forgot to bring to the Dayton Meet swaps a nice condition 1958 300-D
Sun tuneup chart. Anyone interested???
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:57:34 -0400
From: Tony Rinaldi <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: High Speed Starters for '55-'61 Chrysler 300s
Hi To All,
This seems to be a good brief report for '55-'58 from Warren. Is it accurate
and can anyone add '60 & '61 for us?
Tony
> From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:34:11 -0700
> To: "Tony Rinaldi" <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>, "Chrysler 300 Club"
> <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: FW: [Chrysler300] Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for
> 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
>
>
>
>
> According to my parts book:
>
> '55 is 1604 480
> '56 is 1642 140
> '57 & '58 is 1842 562
> Are these Chrysler numbers the ones that an electrical shop needs or do they
> use the Prestolite numbers that are stamped on the starter case? Like, for
> my '55 I think the number is MCL-6304, or maybe not but that is the number
> that is the reference number used in my parts books.
>
> Warren Anderson
> Sedona,AZ
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 20:02:09 -0700
From: "Charlie Valentine" <cross.ram@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: High Speed Starters for '55-'61 Chrysler 300s
The Chrysler part number in the 1961 parts book is 1889200. One would think
that starter should be the same for 59, 60 and 61. I do not have parts books
for 59 and 60.
Charlie Valentine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Rinaldi" <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Chrysler 300 Club"
<Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 4:57 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] High Speed Starters for '55-'61 Chrysler 300s
Hi To All,
This seems to be a good brief report for '55-'58 from Warren. Is it accurate
and can anyone add '60 & '61 for us?
Tony
> From: "Warren R Anderson" <wranderson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 13:34:11 -0700
> To: "Tony Rinaldi" <awrdoc@xxxxxxxxx>, "Chrysler 300 Club"
> <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <fabe7445@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "Owen & Jo Grigg" <ram300@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: FW: [Chrysler300] Any Interest in a High Speed Starter for
> 413CastIron 727 DriveTrains?
>
>
>
>
> According to my parts book:
>
> '55 is 1604 480
> '56 is 1642 140
> '57 & '58 is 1842 562
> Are these Chrysler numbers the ones that an electrical shop needs or do
they
> use the Prestolite numbers that are stamped on the starter case? Like,
for
> my '55 I think the number is MCL-6304, or maybe not but that is the number
> that is the reference number used in my parts books.
>
> Warren Anderson
> Sedona,AZ
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 22:47:12 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: E-bay item question
There is a seat belt, porported to be 1957 Chrysler being offered
on e-bay. What is with the things sticking out of the end
of the webbing portion of the seat belts???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33725&item=2431336847
Wires??, cables??, this is something I have not seen before!
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 23:57:25 EDT
From: jlsavard@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: E-bay item question
In a message dated 9/8/2003 11:53:57 PM Eastern Standard Time,
paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Wires??, cables??, this is something I have not seen before!
Those are steel cables. The early seat belts used them in order to provide
an adjustment for length, I guess. They were put through cable clamps in the
floor.
Joe Savard
Lake Orion, MI
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2003 21:50:10 -0600
From: "Kelly Pierce" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Factory parts books and all those part numbers.......
Greetings group!
I see from time to time that members need part numbers for various reasons, and do not have or have access to the parts books. I have all the factory parts books from 1955 thru 1965, all the years of our Letter Cars. If anyone needs a part number feel free to email me and at first opportunity I will look it up for you and send you a reply. Not only do I enjoy "digging" thru them I find I also learn more about each year 300 as I do. Of course if you need a part number for other than a 300 that is fine as well but I will give the "300" requests priority.
Joe Pierce 300J+Kx3+M+others
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