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- Date: 15 Feb 2004 11:54:57 -0000
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There are 9 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Fw: past and future meets
From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
2. 300 listserver
From: "Kenneth R. Smitley" <Kens_Cars@xxxxxxx>
3. Other Lists
From: William Huff <whuff@xxxxxxxxxx>
4. Need some carburetion advice for a 59E!
From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
5. Re: Need some carburetion advice for a 59E!
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
From: "Thomas Miller" <tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. RE: Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
From: "KELLY PIERCE" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. Fwd: Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
From: MJMLandDev@xxxxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 05:38:10 -0700 (MST)
From: mr-320@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fw: past and future meets
ray;
while i agree with you 100%, i have to wonder just how the
informer can avoid being dissed and excoriated by john h and the
''legion of purity'' for daring to post a non 300 related bit of info to
the listserver. the censors are being quite sucessful,
listserver traffic is way down, and it seems that the pendulum of public
opinion has been lassoed and restrained in their court.
can you suggest a cure for this? as i, for one, prefer a bit
less rigidity in the use ''rules'' and a more free wheeling discussion
of moparallia, as 300's are not my only love, but this club is my only
listserver and source of information.
JEFF
tucson az.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 11:44:08 -0500
From: "Kenneth R. Smitley" <Kens_Cars@xxxxxxx>
Subject: 300 listserver
As an answer to JEFF in Arizona. If you need to broaden your horizons then by all means please join some OTHER groups that cater to YOUR non-300 Chrysler needs!!! Ken in PA...
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 13:18:19 -0500
From: William Huff <whuff@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Other Lists
Well stated Ken - Joining clubs and lists are matters of free choice. We
all know (or should know) the goals and parameters of chosen organizations
before we join, and should abide by them rather than complain and try to
get them changed after the fact.
I have seen many non-letter car questions brought up without criticism, but
they were short lived and of universal interest. The fact is that this is
a Chrysler 300 letter car list and club, that is what makes it unique. I
belong to other automotive lists as well, but here is where I come for
letter car information. 'nuff said.
Bill Huff
>As an answer to JEFF in Arizona. If you need to broaden your horizons then
>by all means please join some OTHER groups that cater to YOUR non-300
>Chrysler needs!!! Ken in PA...
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 16:38:00 EST
From: trkosky@xxxxxxx
Subject: Need some carburetion advice for a 59E!
Happy Valentines Day To Everyone Out There In Chryslerland!
Need some carburetion advice for a 59E.
The car was running a bit rough so I removed the back carburetor (main one
closest to the firewall), took it apart, cleaned it, and put it back on. In
cleaning it, other than the floats not being adjusted properly, nothing else
appeared wrong. Fired her up, she seems to run pretty smooth, but when I gun her
a bit, she sometimes backfires. Could this be the air or gas adjustment
screws??? How many turns out should the idle mixture adjusting screws be turned???
Also, what about the "one big screw" between the idle adjusting screws???
Any advice would help. Thank you and Happy Valentines Day everyone!
Happy Chryslering!
Tom
Miami, Florida
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 17:48:15 -0800
From: Mike Apfelbeck <moparmike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Need some carburetion advice for a 59E!
Tom,
You could probably start with 1 1/2 turns out with the mixture screws, then
adjust them in or out to get the smoothest idle. The big screw in the
center controls how much air/fuel mixture goes into the engine(idle speed).
If the car backfires, or spits back, through the carburetor it usually
means the mixture is too lean, you should check the mixture screw settings
and also the accelerator pump. Backfiring out the exhaust usually means the
engine way too rich or one of the plugs is misfiring and is sending raw gas
out the exhaust.
Mike
At 04:38 PM 2/14/2004 -0500, trkosky@xxxxxxx wrote:
>Happy Valentines Day To Everyone Out There In Chryslerland!
>
>Need some carburetion advice for a 59E.
>
>The car was running a bit rough so I removed the back carburetor (main one
>closest to the firewall), took it apart, cleaned it, and put it back on. In
>cleaning it, other than the floats not being adjusted properly, nothing else
>appeared wrong. Fired her up, she seems to run pretty smooth, but when I
>gun her
>a bit, she sometimes backfires. Could this be the air or gas adjustment
>screws??? How many turns out should the idle mixture adjusting screws be
>turned???
> Also, what about the "one big screw" between the idle adjusting screws???
>Any advice would help. Thank you and Happy Valentines Day everyone!
>
>Happy Chryslering!
>
>Tom
>Miami, Florida
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 21:37:06 -0500
From: "Thomas Miller" <tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
Well,
Yesterday was the day. After 63mos. of faithful service, the lease was
up on my '99 300M and I opted to walk away. I know there are a few
folks on the list that have 300Ms and some that have considered new or
used 300Ms, so I thought I would quickly share my overall experience
with this car. My 300M went into service in November of 1998. We've
put 75,000 miles of mixed in town and highway driving on her. My around
town fuel economy was rarely over 18 mpg, but I could approach 29 mpg in
strict highway driving.
Being that this was a first year model, I opted to spend an extra
$750.00 and extend the warranty from 3yrs./36,000 miles to 5yrs./75,000
miles. I lost that bet. The only service I got under the contract was
about $150.00 worth of coverage for problems experienced with dry rotted
front sway bar bushings.
Under warranty, Chrysler replaced the body computer at 18,000 miles
(had a weird anomaly, if you would push any button on the remote entry
key fob while the car was running, it would lodge an error in the
computer and close the warm air door in the heater system. Damned cold
"feature" in December....). At 24,000 miles Chrysler replaced all 4
tires on my car at no charge with Michelin "Z" -Rated Pilots to solve
balance issues with the OEM Goodyear tires. At 35,000 miles, Chrysler
replaced the hazard flasher switch on the steering column (on a really
hot day, it would pop up on its own and turn on the flashers!).
Out of warranty I replaced the battery, changed the oil (5W-30 Mobil
1) and filter (Mobil 1 # 301) @ 3,500 miles, 17,450 miles, 38,220
miles, and at 56,525 miles (BTW, I NEVER had to add any oil between
changes), and bought another set of Michelin Pilots @ around 51,000
miles. (I still had about 5/32" all the way around on them @ 75,000
miles).
So, outside of gas, insurance and the lease payment; I had out of
pocket expenses with this car of around $800.00. Not bad in my opinion.
All tolled including gas, insurance, lease payment and the above
mentioned incidentals, I spent around 41 cents a mile to drive this car
over a period of 63 months.
Am I going to miss it? Yeah, I already do. But, I'm going to wait
around till next month to see what the 300N er I mean 300C looks like.
But, I have a sneaking hunch I may try to find a deal on a nice used
black 300M special. But, then again 340 horsepower under my right foot
would make for a pretty righteous daily driver!
So, there are the facts. Anybody else have an M story to share?
Specifically, I'm curious if there are any high mile (150,000 to 200,000
miles) 300M owners on the listserv and what sort of maintenance you've
had to perform.
Best Regards to All,
Thomas F. Miller
tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
300C ('57)
Thomas F. Miller
tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 19:04:08 -0800
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
Thanks for sharing your 300M experience with the list. I know I will own
one at some point, and I too would like to hear about the high mileage 300Ms
and how reliable they are above 100K.
I am a little surprised to hear about 18 MPG though. The reports I've
gotten were all between 22 and 26. I looked at several of them last Fall,
mostly '99s. Condition varied quite a bit, and one actually had a sizable
dash crack, and the car only had 52K on it! Must have sat in the sun all
day.
Bob J
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 20:46:30 -0700
From: "KELLY PIERCE" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
Greetings Group-
Kelly and I have a 01 M, 54,000+/- miles on it, other than one set of
tires, a recall on seat bolts, NO costs other than normal maintenance. I
have a good friend who is a mechanic at the Dodge dealer in Billings, Mt.,
has been there for 20+ years. I respect his opinion and always ask him about
a model before I buy. He has saved me countless headaches and $s telling me
which years, models etc. to avoid. He gave me a green light on any M, just
advised to either get extended warranty coverage or plan on transmission
work after hitting the 85-100,000 mile range, especially in the 99 and 00
models (all LH body cars), and from experience, our 94 Vision and 98
Intrepid ES had transmission problems, both at the 100,000 mile mark, even
after servicing the trans in the Intrepid TWICE , once at 40,000 and then at
90,000 miles to avoid a repeat of the transmission trouble like the Vision
had. His version as to the why? Too much heat under the hood of those cars,
due to the design of the hoods, front end etc. makes everything really
tight, little air flow under the hood. Also the computer controls the
transmission and the internal adjustments, so if there is a glitch in the
computer/ a sensor etc. it will adjust the transmission to death! Too bad as
the old torqueflights were much tougher and durable for more miles.
Our fuel mileage is about the same. We've gotten as high as 30 on the
highway- flat country and slower speed(60-65) but get 25-27 consistently
here at 4,000'+ altitude and 75-85 MPH, 19-22 back and forth to work, 10
miles each way. Great cornering, handling, looks and power(for a new
car)front drive in the snow and ice( yeah we do get some of that here in the
winter) What more can you ask for in a newer car? I would recommend a M to
any one, and have had many people (even here in cowboy country) ask how we
like it etc. and always tell them they won't regret buying a M>>>>
Joe and Kelly Pierce Whitehall, Mt. 300Kx3+M+others
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Miller" <tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, February 14, 2004 7:37 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
> Well,
>
> Yesterday was the day. After 63mos. of faithful service, the lease was
> up on my '99 300M and I opted to walk away. I know there are a few
> folks on the list that have 300Ms and some that have considered new or
> used 300Ms, so I thought I would quickly share my overall experience
> with this car. My 300M went into service in November of 1998. We've
> put 75,000 miles of mixed in town and highway driving on her. My around
> town fuel economy was rarely over 18 mpg, but I could approach 29 mpg in
> strict highway driving.
>
> Being that this was a first year model, I opted to spend an extra
> $750.00 and extend the warranty from 3yrs./36,000 miles to 5yrs./75,000
> miles. I lost that bet. The only service I got under the contract was
> about $150.00 worth of coverage for problems experienced with dry rotted
> front sway bar bushings.
>
> Under warranty, Chrysler replaced the body computer at 18,000 miles
> (had a weird anomaly, if you would push any button on the remote entry
> key fob while the car was running, it would lodge an error in the
> computer and close the warm air door in the heater system. Damned cold
> "feature" in December....). At 24,000 miles Chrysler replaced all 4
> tires on my car at no charge with Michelin "Z" -Rated Pilots to solve
> balance issues with the OEM Goodyear tires. At 35,000 miles, Chrysler
> replaced the hazard flasher switch on the steering column (on a really
> hot day, it would pop up on its own and turn on the flashers!).
>
> Out of warranty I replaced the battery, changed the oil (5W-30 Mobil
> 1) and filter (Mobil 1 # 301) @ 3,500 miles, 17,450 miles, 38,220
> miles, and at 56,525 miles (BTW, I NEVER had to add any oil between
> changes), and bought another set of Michelin Pilots @ around 51,000
> miles. (I still had about 5/32" all the way around on them @ 75,000
> miles).
>
> So, outside of gas, insurance and the lease payment; I had out of
> pocket expenses with this car of around $800.00. Not bad in my opinion.
> All tolled including gas, insurance, lease payment and the above
> mentioned incidentals, I spent around 41 cents a mile to drive this car
> over a period of 63 months.
>
> Am I going to miss it? Yeah, I already do. But, I'm going to wait
> around till next month to see what the 300N er I mean 300C looks like.
> But, I have a sneaking hunch I may try to find a deal on a nice used
> black 300M special. But, then again 340 horsepower under my right foot
> would make for a pretty righteous daily driver!
>
> So, there are the facts. Anybody else have an M story to share?
> Specifically, I'm curious if there are any high mile (150,000 to 200,000
> miles) 300M owners on the listserv and what sort of maintenance you've
> had to perform.
>
>
> Best Regards to All,
>
> Thomas F. Miller
> tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> 300C ('57)
>
> Thomas F. Miller
>
> tfm@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> pageTFM@xxxxxxxxxxxx / text paging
> 614.975.4164 / voice
> 707.667.2601 / eFax
>
>
> To send a message to this group, send an email to:
> Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> For list server instructions, go to
http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2004 23:10:18 EST
From: MJMLandDev@xxxxxxx
Subject: Fwd: Chrysler 300M, Epilogue
I bought a 99 300M for my son. Shortly after we got the car it developed a
bad vibration which was caused by bad Goodyear tires so we had to replace all
4. Last year he took it to a dealer in TN because he started to get a
vibration and noise on the way back to schoole in MA. The dealer told him he wouldn't
let him drive the car another mile or anywhere. Apparently something died in
the transaxle and the driver's wheel was about to fall off! Then a few
months ago the heat seat (driver's side of course) died. And then over Christmas
break the compressor bearing decided to go to that great bearing graveyard in
the sky. So we've had quite a few repairs for this car and none of them have
been cheap. I still like the car car but not as much as my H.
Mike Meyer
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