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There are 25 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
From: MRS954@xxxxxxx
2. Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
From: Sheldon Wotring <swotring@xxxxxxx>
3. Re: batwing
From: "Johnl" <john@xxxxxxxxx>
4. RE: 1961 300G New Member
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
5. Re: Moron Needs Help!
From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
6. matters pertaining DIRECTLY to Chrysler 300's
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
7. Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
8. Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
9. CHRYSLER 300 CARS
From: "Kenneth R. Smitley" <Kens_Cars@xxxxxxx>
10. Crankcase venilation on C-300 and 300 B
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
11. Re: Crankcase venilation on C-300 and 300 B
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
12. Re: Crankcase venilation on C-300 and 300 B
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
13. Crankcase venilation on 300's
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
14. Re: February In Dayton
From: "Bakers" <dbaker1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
15. Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
From: "Bakers" <dbaker1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
16. Hurst 300
From: Rob49106@xxxxxxx
17. RE: CHRYSLER 300 CARS
From: "K. Eric Wolfe" <kewolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
18. Cruise on Scenic 7
From: "Paul and Vicki Swanson" <pvswan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
19. Re: Crankcase venilation on 300's
From: Gary Barker <gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
20. Heel plates in K's and 66 300's
From: "KELLY PIERCE" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
21. Re: CHRYSLER 300 CARS
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
22. Re: Crankcase venilation on C-300 and 300 B
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
23. Concours judging
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
24. Re: Concours judging
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
25. Parts
From: "Ulf Larsson" <ulf.larsson@xxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:58:17 EST
From: MRS954@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
So, Roger, are you suggesting that all of us SUV drivers trade in our
vehicles for a tiny little econobox? What difference would that make? I complain
about gas prices no matter if I'm filling up my Grand Cherokee or my Cirrus. I
would complain even if I'm driving a gas-sipping Japasaki. It's all
proportional. While I agree that not all SUV drivers really need one, it is the
owner's choice. As a volunteer firefighter, it's good for me to have a 4 wheel
drive to get to the fire station in any weather when the whistle blows. I don't
know how it is in California, but here on the East Coast we have the freedom to
choose any vehicle we feel confident in driving. And besides, those tiny
fuel efficient cars don't do as well in snow as my big gas pig Jeep. And I've
never seen a 1.5 litre engine capable of pulling a camper or any trailer for
that matter. No offense, Roger, but I'll keep my Jeep and continue to bitch
about high gas prices. It's just my nature. Thanks for your insight.
Regards,
Mark Souders
Mohrsville, PA
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 17:29:54 -0800
From: Sheldon Wotring <swotring@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
Of all the reasons for higher gas prices you list, I notice that shortage of
supply is not one of them. So why do you have a problem with SUV's?
Apparently if all SUV's disappeared it would not affect the gas prices
anyway. Also their fuel usage is comparable to the average family sedan in
the Fifties.
I see them as an attempt to regain the feeling of security we had in our
heavy Detroit iron before the government decided to redesign our cars for
us.
By the way, I do not own an SUV.
Sheldon
PA
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger <mailto:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx> Schaaf
To: eladiodazed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eladiodazed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ;
ed_kehoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ed_kehoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; DOUG LEPAK
<mailto:stwheels@xxxxxxx> ; Donna Casella Zimmer <mailto:mdccz@xxxxxxx> ;
Chrysler 300 <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; CARLOS
<mailto:carlos61760@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> GARCIA ; brakehandle27@xxxxxxx
<mailto:brakehandle27@xxxxxxx> ; Batluvr@xxxxxxx <mailto:Batluvr@xxxxxxx>
; Ann Marie Imbriale <mailto:lakelandeastgs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Alice
<mailto:awagner1031@xxxxxxxxxx> Wagner ; Adam C.
<mailto:ihateprod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; ACERANDY@xxxxxxx
<mailto:ACERANDY@xxxxxxx> ; Aa Aa <mailto:hiotisk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Michael
<mailto:majj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> & Joanne Casella
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Fw: for lower gas prices
Until I can go to the grocery store and see something besides a parking lot
full of SUV's, I will have no sympathy for those who wish to blame their
gasoline woes on the big bad oil companies.
I paid 35 cents per gallon for gasoline in 1957 when the average USA wage
was perhaps a 75 to 100 dollars per week. Now the average is probably
closer to 750 to a 1000 which is 10 times as large. Seems that gasoline has
gone up 5(or 6 in some areas) times(a large portion of that being tax
increases--or do none of your remember when you did not pay sales tax on
your gasoline-- from our out of control government and no one is calling
them greedy--such as some call the oil companies) and wages have gone up
some 10 times. Incidentally a new Corvette was about 3000 then and is
50,000 now. That is about 16 times.
I paid a 1000 dollar gas guzzler tax on my Jaguar XJR. Perhaps treating
SUV's and none business use Pick Up trucks the same as automobiles(also for
safety standards and requirements, bumper height standards, emissions) and
taxing them the same penalty would cure some of the foolish ardor for these
vehicles and leave enough fuel to go around so that we all may benefit with
lower fuel prices and help keep us out of foreign entanglements.
Yes before someone lets me know about the high fuel use of our 300's(and
other such old cars) they are not used on a regular basis and probably
contribute little to our increased overall fuel costs, smog and dependency
on foreign oil.
I just put on my cast iron jock strap to protect me from the wails that I am
sure are forthcoming. I am weary of the continuous fusillades against big
oil and the corporate greed they display everytime gasoline prices
increase(often for refinery problems, the world price of oil, stupid
government regulations on MTBE or Ethanol, cold weather, a ship sinking
somewhere etc). Another piece of advice for those who believe that the oil
companies are ripping you off. Invest your 401k and IRA monies in oil
stocks and with all your excess profits your fuel prices will not look so
bad.
We have seen the enemy and the enemy is us.....Pogo
Roger Schaaf
300 B Milpitas, California
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 07:40:48 -0800
From: "Johnl" <john@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: batwing
I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents on this one. First, sorry I'm late, but I
don't do e-mail on the weekends.
There were many versions of the "Deltawing" air cleaners produced. Caddy,
Packard, Chevy, De Soto and Chrysler all had versions. Overall they looked
similar, but some, such as Packard mounted them with the point towards the
firewall. Chrysler was the only one I've ever seen that has the four ribs
running fore and aft.
I can tell you from personal experience that although my '55 & '56 300
examples look the same there are major differences in the pods. The pods
consist of two pieces, an outer container or can and an inner that contains
a mesh. On the inside of the outer container there is a sleeve that the
inner slides over. Yeh, I know this gets confusing, but stick with me.
Although my pods look the same from the outside they will not interchange
between the two pieces. So what I'm saying is I can't make the '55 outer
fit the '56 inner. Also I can tell you that not only do they not
interchange, their interior makeup is different.
Beyond all of this the necks on the Deltawing its self are different between
Chrysler applications and others. The spacing between the two carbs,
diameter of the necks to fit the carbs and last the height or length of the
necks are different.
Last, the one thing I've learned over the years in participating in the
hobby is never say this is the only way it was done as you could be proved
to be incorrect at a later date. When I get inquires regarding a purchase
of a C300 or a 300B one of the first questions I always ask is does it have
a complete air cleaner? If not I caution the potential buyer as this is a
rather difficult item to obtain and usually very pricey.
John Lazenby
C300/300B Model Year Consultant, Chrysler 300 Club International, Inc.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johnnie Slayton" <Jslayton@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 7:17 AM
Subject: [Chrysler300] batwing
> According to my information the 56 Desoto batwing which looks like the
> one on Ebay will not fit over chry. carbs as the spacing is
> different,also G.M. batwing or Packard will not fit.Cadillac batwings
> have two small holes on top for chrome " V ".I was very interested in
> this carb-batwing set-up but I don't think the batwing which is
> definitely not a chry.anyway will fit over carbs. Johnnie Slayton
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
> To send a message to this group, send an email to:
> Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> For list server instructions, go to
http://www.chrysler300club.com/yahoolist/inst.htm
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 08:28:37 -0800
From: "Bob Jasinski" <rpjasin@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: 1961 300G New Member
Welcome to the Club Russell! Over time, I'm sure you will find just about
everything you need to restore and maintain your 300G through the Club and
this message board. Follow John Hertog's advice on the items you mentioned,
and you won't go wrong. Keep us posted on your progress.
Bob Jasinski
300G Convert
Danville, CA
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 09:16:42 -0800
From: "Ryan Hill" <ryan_hillc300@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Moron Needs Help!
As other members have said, it's fine to leave it there but I have had
success removing washers, carb retaining pins, and nuts out of those
passages by using needle nose pliers(magnetized) or a little trick that
usually works is to push a small magnet into a piece of vacuum line so the
magnet doesn't grab the head and fish around. Of course you could always
turn the car upside down and shake!
Ryan Hill
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 12:11:27 -0500
From: John Hertog <crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: matters pertaining DIRECTLY to Chrysler 300's
Hi to all, and a good Monday morning
The E.C.C. would like to gently remind all listserver members that only
"on-topic" posts belong on the listserver. We feel that the current thread
re: gas prices, and whether it's OK to drive SUV's, does NOT belong .
A quick note to all newer listserver members (and a reminder to all ) : the
listserver is intended for communications between Club members, with regards
to matters pertaining DIRECTLY to our beloved Chrysler 300's, only. Period,
no exceptions.
Yes, there are many other related topics that relate in some way or other to
the old car hobby in general, but our listserver is not an appropriate
forum for these discussions. Please - abide by the simple rule stated
above. Our experience over the years has shown that restricting posts to
"matters pertaining DIRECTLY to Chrysler 300's" is what works best for all.
Any comments or replies should please be sent directly to the undersigned -
and NOT through the listserver.
Don Warnaar: 300country@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Bob Merritt: Bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
John Hertog: crossram@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Electronic Communications Committee
Chrysler 300 Club Int'l Inc.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 09:44:24 -0800
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
A careful reading of my missive would have found the point that indeed if
SUV's and like vehicles did not exist supplies would be far more ample then
they are now.
If all are vehicles maintained the fuel mileage of a Denali of about 10 mpg
we would use as a nation 3 times the fuel as if they all averaged the 30
mpg of say a Honda Civic. I argue that this would change the lack of supply
considerably and by extension the price the per gallon that all must pay,
including the driver of the Honda who is not part of the problem.
You are correct on the fuel economy comparison to the autos of the fifties.
However I would not wish to go back to the fifties on fuel standards, safety
standards, smog standards(just stand behind my 300 B when I fire it off one
time and you would understand this). Now music from the fifties I could go
for.
I do not own an SUV either and the new cars that I have owned have been
blessed with the gas guzzler tax. One of my points was that if this tax was
applied to all gas guzzlers that this could influence some who buy gas for
their grocery getter to other behavior. There is no excuse except some
political favors that are repaid to give certain classes of vehicles
exception from this tax.
My other point was do not complain about gas prices and misdirect your anger
at the oil companies. We all have the choice to cut our fuel expense in 1/2
if we wish. Buy the Honda. Whining about the oil companies will never give
you a 50 percent savings(or even 5 percent for that matter).
As for you trailer pullers, hunters and fisherman, skiers, business folks
etc. I have no quarrel with your SUV or Pickup at all. It is those who use
for their daily commute, pick up their kids at school, go to the grocery
store and just generally cruise around is where I and others have the
problem. If you all are going to blame the oil companies, I suggest that
their are more effective solutions to the benefit of the rest of us.
Take a look at this website for those who are interested.
http://www.dealtime.com/xMPR-~PD-225690227585~PT-xMPR~RI-99952135812
Roger
300 B Milpitas, Ca.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Sheldon Wotring" <swotring@xxxxxxx>
To: "Chrysler 300" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Fw: for lower gas prices
Of all the reasons for higher gas prices you list, I notice that shortage of
supply is not one of them. So why do you have a problem with SUV's?
Apparently if all SUV's disappeared it would not affect the gas prices
anyway. Also their fuel usage is comparable to the average family sedan in
the Fifties.
I see them as an attempt to regain the feeling of security we had in our
heavy Detroit iron before the government decided to redesign our cars for
us.
By the way, I do not own an SUV.
Sheldon
PA
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger <mailto:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx> Schaaf
To: eladiodazed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:eladiodazed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ;
ed_kehoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ed_kehoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; DOUG LEPAK
<mailto:stwheels@xxxxxxx> ; Donna Casella Zimmer <mailto:mdccz@xxxxxxx> ;
Chrysler 300 <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; CARLOS
<mailto:carlos61760@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> GARCIA ; brakehandle27@xxxxxxx
<mailto:brakehandle27@xxxxxxx> ; Batluvr@xxxxxxx <mailto:Batluvr@xxxxxxx>
; Ann Marie Imbriale <mailto:lakelandeastgs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Alice
<mailto:awagner1031@xxxxxxxxxx> Wagner ; Adam C.
<mailto:ihateprod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; ACERANDY@xxxxxxx
<mailto:ACERANDY@xxxxxxx> ; Aa Aa <mailto:hiotisk@xxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Michael
<mailto:majj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> & Joanne Casella
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 4:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Fw: for lower gas prices
Until I can go to the grocery store and see something besides a parking lot
full of SUV's, I will have no sympathy for those who wish to blame their
gasoline woes on the big bad oil companies.
I paid 35 cents per gallon for gasoline in 1957 when the average USA wage
was perhaps a 75 to 100 dollars per week. Now the average is probably
closer to 750 to a 1000 which is 10 times as large. Seems that gasoline has
gone up 5(or 6 in some areas) times(a large portion of that being tax
increases--or do none of your remember when you did not pay sales tax on
your gasoline-- from our out of control government and no one is calling
them greedy--such as some call the oil companies) and wages have gone up
some 10 times. Incidentally a new Corvette was about 3000 then and is
50,000 now. That is about 16 times.
I paid a 1000 dollar gas guzzler tax on my Jaguar XJR. Perhaps treating
SUV's and none business use Pick Up trucks the same as automobiles(also for
safety standards and requirements, bumper height standards, emissions) and
taxing them the same penalty would cure some of the foolish ardor for these
vehicles and leave enough fuel to go around so that we all may benefit with
lower fuel prices and help keep us out of foreign entanglements.
Yes before someone lets me know about the high fuel use of our 300's(and
other such old cars) they are not used on a regular basis and probably
contribute little to our increased overall fuel costs, smog and dependency
on foreign oil.
I just put on my cast iron jock strap to protect me from the wails that I am
sure are forthcoming. I am weary of the continuous fusillades against big
oil and the corporate greed they display everytime gasoline prices
increase(often for refinery problems, the world price of oil, stupid
government regulations on MTBE or Ethanol, cold weather, a ship sinking
somewhere etc). Another piece of advice for those who believe that the oil
companies are ripping you off. Invest your 401k and IRA monies in oil
stocks and with all your excess profits your fuel prices will not look so
bad.
We have seen the enemy and the enemy is us.....Pogo
Roger Schaaf
300 B Milpitas, California
To send a message to this group, send an email to:
Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:33:05 -0500
From: "PaddyCaddy ." <paddycaddy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
Go Gettem Roger !
Knowledge can be a VERY dangerous thing.
Besides, these chain letters are started by spammers just getting email
addresses to sell/use by attaching cookies to them. Like the ones saying
Bill Gates is going to send you money for forwarding it - or that a sick
child is counting them.
Remember the one saying you should buy certain brands of oil to punish the
Saudi's ? (duh!) Something tells me it was written by a marketing exec at
one of the pure, wholesome, patriotic oil companies listed in the email who
only sold Yankee oil ! LOL
As for energy consumption, our Brutes were made to last (thus our club) and
from the best available technology at the time. Most cars today are planned
to pretty much self destruct after 150K miles or 5 years - whichever comes
first. Producing tens of thousands of additional cars to replace them
consumes far more resoucres and energy (not to mention pollution) than our
antiques could ever spit out in 100 lifetimes.
We Americans should be very grateful for how CHEAP our gas is here. Those
who think it's outrageously expensive obviously don't travel much.
Sean.
>From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <eladiodazed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,<ed_kehoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,"DOUG LEPAK"
><stwheels@xxxxxxx>,"Donna Casella Zimmer" <mdccz@xxxxxxx>,"Chrysler 300"
><chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,"CARLOS GARCIA"
><carlos61760@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,<brakehandle27@xxxxxxx>,<Batluvr@xxxxxxx>,"Ann
>Marie Imbriale" <lakelandeastgs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,"Alice Wagner"
><awagner1031@xxxxxxxxxx>,"Adam C."
><ihateprod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>,<ACERANDY@xxxxxxx>,"Aa Aa"
><hiotisk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>,"Michael & Joanne Casella" <majj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Fw: for lower gas prices
>Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 01:39:04 -0800
>
>Until I can go to the grocery store and see something besides a parking lot
>full of SUV's, I will have no sympathy for those who wish to blame their
>gasoline woes on the big bad oil companies.
>
>
>
>I paid 35 cents per gallon for gasoline in 1957 when the average USA wage
>was perhaps a 75 to 100 dollars per week. Now the average is probably
>closer to 750 to a 1000 which is 10 times as large. Seems that gasoline
>has
>gone up 5(or 6 in some areas) times(a large portion of that being tax
>increases--or do none of your remember when you did not pay sales tax on
>your gasoline-- from our out of control government and no one is calling
>them greedy--such as some call the oil companies) and wages have gone up
>some 10 times. Incidentally a new Corvette was about 3000 then and is
>50,000 now. That is about 16 times.
>
>I paid a 1000 dollar gas guzzler tax on my Jaguar XJR. Perhaps treating
>SUV's and none business use Pick Up trucks the same as automobiles(also for
>safety standards and requirements, bumper height standards, emissions) and
>taxing them the same penalty would cure some of the foolish ardor for these
>vehicles and leave enough fuel to go around so that we all may benefit with
>lower fuel prices and help keep us out of foreign entanglements.
>
>Yes before someone lets me know about the high fuel use of our 300's(and
>other such old cars) they are not used on a regular basis and probably
>contribute little to our increased overall fuel costs, smog and dependency
>on foreign oil.
>
>I just put on my cast iron jock strap to protect me from the wails that I
>am
>sure are forthcoming. I am weary of the continuous fusillades against big
>oil and the corporate greed they display everytime gasoline prices
>increase(often for refinery problems, the world price of oil, stupid
>government regulations on MTBE or Ethanol, cold weather, a ship sinking
>somewhere etc). Another piece of advice for those who believe that the oil
>companies are ripping you off. Invest your 401k and IRA monies in oil
>stocks and with all your excess profits your fuel prices will not look so
>bad.
>
>We have seen the enemy and the enemy is us.....Pogo
>
>Roger Schaaf
>300 B Milpitas, California
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael & Joanne Casella" <majj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <eladiodazed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ed_kehoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "DOUG
>LEPAK" <stwheels@xxxxxxx>; "Donna Casella Zimmer" <mdccz@xxxxxxx>;
>"Chrysler
>300" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "CARLOS GARCIA"
><carlos61760@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <brakehandle27@xxxxxxx>; <Batluvr@xxxxxxx>;
>"Ann Marie Imbriale" <lakelandeastgs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Alice Wagner"
><awagner1031@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Adam C." <ihateprod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
><ACERANDY@xxxxxxx>; "Aa Aa" <hiotisk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 6:55 PM
>Subject: [Chrysler300] Fw: for lower gas prices
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: ShockMe
> > To: shockme@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:05 PM
> > Subject: FW: for lower gas prices
> >
> >
> > > Read on....Subject: GAS WAR
> >
> > > > Join the resistance!!!!
> >
> > > > I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the
>summer.Want
> >
> > > > gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some
>intelligent,united
> >
> > > > action. This makes MUCH MORE
> >
> > > > SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was
>going
> >
> > > > around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that
>because
> >
> > > > they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to
>buy
>gas.
> >
> > > > It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for
>them.
> >
> > > > BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
>really work.
> >
> > > > Please read it and join with us!
> >
> > > > By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is
>super
> >
> > > > cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 for regular unleaded in my
>town.
> >
> > > > Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us
>to
> >
> > > > think that the cost! of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we
>need to take
> >
> > > > aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the
>marketplace....not
> >
> > > > sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we
>consumers
> >
> > > > need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of
>gas
> >
> > > > come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing
>their gas!
> >
> > > > And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely
>on our
> >
> > > > cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on
>gas
> >
> > > > prices if we all act together to force a price war.
> >
> > > > Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY
>gasoline
> >
> > > > from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.
>If they
> >
> > > > are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their
>prices.
>If they
> >
> > > > reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit.
>But
>to
> >
> > > > have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and
>Mobil
>gas
> >
> > > > buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at
>this
>point...keep
> >
> > > > reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of
>people!!
> >
> > > > I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send
>it
>to
> >
> > > > at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at
>least ten
> >
> > > > more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
>the
> >
> > > > sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
> >
> > > > consumers! If those three million get excited and ! pass this on to
>ten
> >
> > > > friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it
>goes
> >
> > > > one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION
>PEOPLE!!!
> >
> > > > Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. If
>you
> >
> > > > don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do
>is
> >
> > > > send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a
>mathematician.
> >
> > > > But I am ... so trust me on this one.)
> >
> > > > How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to
>ten
> >
> > > > more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could
> >
> > > conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't
>think
> >
> > you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make
>a
>difference.
> >
> > > > If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD
>OUT
> >
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> >
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 15:28:31 -0500
From: "Kenneth R. Smitley" <Kens_Cars@xxxxxxx>
Subject: CHRYSLER 300 CARS
Dear Mr. Hertog:
THANK YOU for reiterating the PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM!!!! I joined the club to relate more closely with people that have OLD Chrysler 300's, not to read a daily issuance of CRAP...These subjects range from the sale of a Dakota pickup to choices of WHITEWALL CLEANERS!!! I know you try to keep the group straight, but some of these people seem to have nothing else to do..
I'm sure that I can count on one hand the times a C-300 Chrysler comment has been posted on this THE CHRYSLER 300 site in this past year...If you don't like the price of something DON'T buy it: if ya wanna play ya gotta pay.... A 48mpg VW TDI solves my gasoline problems...
I certainly hope that this is not considered "chastising" ANYONE....Thank you sir, Ken Smitley...
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 12:50:08 -0800
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Crankcase venilation on C-300 and 300 B
A problem that I experience and I suspect for others is the fact that all crankcase vapors breath out into the atmosphere.
This not only an environmental problem(severe) but also makes an oily mess under the hood and under the car from fumes escaping from the oil filler and lower crankcase vent.
I am aware that their are retrofit closed crankcase breathing products available to address this and that they were standard as a first step to emission controls on later 300's.
My question is if anyone in the club has looked at this closely and devised a clean looking and effective method to address this problem without compromising the stock appearance of the engine compartment.
And if so could describe the method to do so. I believe that many of us would be interested in a solution.
Would such an effort cost points in a judged meet or would it be treated as a safety(environment??) upgrade as tires or seat belts are? Speaking of this, how are disc brake conversions treated in judging?
Roger Schaaf
300 B Calif
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 18:17:28 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Crankcase venilation on C-300 and 300 B
Roger Schaaf wrote:
> A problem that I experience and I suspect for others is the fact that all crankcase vapors breath out into the atmosphere.
> My question is if anyone in the club has looked at this closely and devised a clean looking and effective method to address this problem without compromising the stock appearance of the engine compartment.
> And if so could describe the method to do so. I believe that many of us would be interested in a solution.
> Roger Schaaf
> 300 B Calif
OK, Somewhere I have a pic of a California 392 WITH FACTORY PCV valve
installed. SOME aftermarket parts catalogs still list the 57-58
392 PCV valves.
IF one looks at the mid 60's slant 6's they had a cap that went over
the oilfill and it FITS the oilfill of the hemi's. Out of the Top of
this cap was the PCV valve. it then went to a port on the base of the
WCFB carb.
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 18:23:01 -0800
From: "Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Crankcase venilation on C-300 and 300 B
I'm sure our head judge Gil Cunninham can clear this up better, but from
what I understand, any type of equipment that the car DID NOT come with when
it was built will have points deducted of in concours judging. The people
who volunteer to have their cars judged this way should be prepared to have
points deducted for non-stock items. This would include disc brake
conversions, tires, seat belts (I'm really not sure how the club has been
treating this one), engine swaps, electronic ignition, color changes, and on
and on. This has been argued over extensively in the past and there is no
point in starting it up again. If you want to modify your car and drive it
the way it was meant, enter it in peoples choice. Concours is for factory
correct cars, that are usually not driven extensively.
300ly,
Don in RI
----- Original Message ----- Would such an effort cost points in a judged
meet or would it be treated as a safety(environment??) upgrade as tires or
seat belts are? Speaking of this, how are disc brake conversions treated in
judging?
Roger Schaaf
300 B Calif
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 19:42:43 -0500
From: paul holmgren <paulholm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Crankcase venilation on 300's
OK, having a picture of a factory setup, I need more info!!!
Does ANYONE out there have a WCFB carb that is set up for a
PCV system. I KNOW they exist, missed out on a carb from
a single 4bbl instalation on e-bay the other week.
I am Looking for a few closeup pics of the carb base
--
Paul Holmgren
Hoosier Corps #33, L-6
2 57 300-C's in Indy
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:14:24 -0500
From: "Bakers" <dbaker1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: February In Dayton
Well, a few miles north of John here in southern Maine I got the F out for a
photo shoot amongst the snowbanks on the driveway Sunday. Took her for a
short spin with the heat on...............45 degrees still felt nice.
Doug
----- Original Message -----
From: <john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <pennsy300@xxxxxxx>;
<chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] February In Dayton
> I had to take my G convert for a ride today as well, but with the top up,
as North of Boston it was barely 50. I just wanted to warm up the fluids
while I had the chance, as March and April can both be iffy months for old
cars.
> We may still get a fair amount of snow in March, and everyone knows about
April showers.
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ray Jones [mailto:hurst300@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 2:31 PM
> To: pennsy300@xxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] February In Dayton
>
>
> And we're all glad to see someone useing their "Beautiful brutes"!!
> Enjoy, Ray
> --
> Ray Jones, Jones Ridge, in the Ouachita Mtns near Mena, Western Arkansas
>
> > From: pennsy300@xxxxxxx
> > Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 14:27:04 EST
> > To: chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [Chrysler300] February In Dayton
> >
> > Almost 60 degrees here, so I took the D convert out for a spin. Top
down?
> > But of course! It had't been started since late November, but it ran
like a
> > charm. Not a drop of tranny fluid leaked out of the freshly resealed
> > Torqueflite. Damn, that's a great car! Sorry 'bout this, but I had to
tell
> > somebody.
> > McTaggart
> >
> >
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:23:13 -0500
From: "Bakers" <dbaker1@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Fw: for lower gas prices
Come on folks - this borders on chain mail.
I personally think its pretty amazing that gas is still under $2.00 a gallon
here in the 21st century. In the sixties I thought it wouldn't be needed or
available by now.
College tuition for my daughter is more than 12 times what it was for me in
1975. That costs me BIG money.
Doug Baker, Gorham, Maine
P.S. do what I did - buy oil stock!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael & Joanne Casella" <majj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eladiodazed@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <ed_kehoe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "DOUG
LEPAK" <stwheels@xxxxxxx>; "Donna Casella Zimmer" <mdccz@xxxxxxx>; "Chrysler
300" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "CARLOS GARCIA"
<carlos61760@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <brakehandle27@xxxxxxx>; <Batluvr@xxxxxxx>;
"Ann Marie Imbriale" <lakelandeastgs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Alice Wagner"
<awagner1031@xxxxxxxxxx>; "Adam C." <ihateprod@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
<ACERANDY@xxxxxxx>; "Aa Aa" <hiotisk@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 29, 2004 9:55 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Fw: for lower gas prices
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ShockMe
> To: shockme@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 3:05 PM
> Subject: FW: for lower gas prices
>
>
> > Read on....Subject: GAS WAR
>
> > > Join the resistance!!!!
>
> > > I hear we are going to hit close to $3.00 a gallon by the summer.Want
>
> > > gasoline prices to come down? We need to take some intelligent,united
>
> > > action. This makes MUCH MORE
>
> > > SENSE than the "don't buy gas on a certain day" campaign that was
going
>
> > > around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that
because
>
> > > they knew we wouldn't continue to "hurt" ourselves by refusing to buy
gas.
>
> > > It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them.
>
> > > BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can
really work.
>
> > > Please read it and join with us!
>
> > > By now you're probably thinking gasoline priced at about $1.50 is
super
>
> > > cheap. Me too! It is currently $1.97 for regular unleaded in my town.
>
> > > Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
>
> > > think that the cost! of a gallon of gas is CHEAP at $1.50- $1.75, we
need to take
>
> > > aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the
marketplace....not
>
> > > sellers. With the price of gasoline going up more each day, we
consumers
>
> > > need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of gas
>
> > > come down is if we hit someone in the pocketbook by not purchasing
their gas!
>
> > > And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. How? Since we all rely
on our
>
> > > cars, we can't just stop buying gas. But we CAN have an impact on gas
>
> > > prices if we all act together to force a price war.
>
> > > Here's the idea: For the rest of this year, DON'T purchase ANY
gasoline
>
> > > from the two biggest companies (which now are one), EXXON and MOBIL.
If they
>
> > > are not selling any gas, they will be inclined to reduce their prices.
If they
>
> > > reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But
to
>
> > > have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of Exxon and Mobil
gas
>
> > > buyers. It's really simple to do!! Now, don't whimp out on me at this
point...keep
>
> > > reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of
people!!
>
> > > I am sending this note to about thirty people. If each of you send it
to
>
> > > at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300) ... and those 300 send it to at
least ten
>
> > > more (300 x 10 = 3,000)...and so on, by the time the message reaches
the
>
> > > sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION
>
> > > consumers! If those three million get excited and ! pass this on to
ten
>
> > > friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it
goes
>
> > > one level further, you guessed it..... THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
>
> > > Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all. If
you
>
> > > don't understand how we can reach 300 million and all you have to do
is
>
> > > send this to 10 people.... Well, let's face it, you just aren't a
mathematician.
>
> > > But I am ... so trust me on this one.)
>
> > > How long would all that take? If each of us sends this e-mail out to
ten
>
> > > more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could
>
> > conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! I'll bet you didn't
think
>
> you and I had that much potential, did you! Acting together we can make a
difference.
>
> > > If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on. PLEASE HOLD
OUT
>
> > > UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE $1.30 RANGE AND KEEP THEM
>
> DOWN. THIS CAN REALLY WORK.
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 21:15:19 EST
From: Rob49106@xxxxxxx
Subject: Hurst 300
I am looking for parts/accessories for my 1970 Hurst 300. Any
information/leads would be greatly appreciated. Some of the "rare" items are the felt type
cloth that came with these cars, in the glovebox. Or a parts car would be even
better. Thanks, RGG Michigan
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 23:11:58 -0500
From: "K. Eric Wolfe" <kewolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: CHRYSLER 300 CARS
I happen to like the comments referring to car insurance (very useful),
car waxes and cleaners. They all go to support continued operation of
the 300's.
-----Original Message-----
From: Kenneth R. Smitley [mailto:Kens_Cars@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:29 PM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] CHRYSLER 300 CARS
Dear Mr. Hertog:
THANK YOU for reiterating the PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM!!!! I joined the
club to relate more closely with people that have OLD Chrysler 300's,
not to read a daily issuance of CRAP...These subjects range from the
sale of a Dakota pickup to choices of WHITEWALL CLEANERS!!! I know you
try to keep the group straight, but some of these people seem to have
nothing else to do..
I'm sure that I can count on one hand the times a C-300 Chrysler comment
has been posted on this THE CHRYSLER 300 site in this past year...If you
don't like the price of something DON'T buy it: if ya wanna play ya
gotta pay.... A 48mpg VW TDI solves my gasoline
problems...
I certainly hope that this is not considered "chastising"
ANYONE....Thank you sir, Ken Smitley...
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Message: 18
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:36:56 -0600
From: "Paul and Vicki Swanson" <pvswan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Cruise on Scenic 7
If anyone is interested...
Hi,
We're club members and also resort owners on Bull Shoals Lake, Arkansas. We wanted to pass along this invitation from the Arkansas Tourism Industry Newsletter.
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Want a great way to get out and enjoy Arkansas's natural scenic beauty? Join the Arkansas Department of Parks and Tourism and its regional tourism partners for "Hubcaps on the Highway," a classic car cruise on Scenic 7, April 30 - May 1.
The cruise, open to owners of classic or custom cars, celebrates Arkansas's Scenic 7 Byway. Participants can start either in El Dorado or Harrison. On April 30, both locations will hold kick-off events for participants and the community. On May 1, participants travel up or down Scenic 7, stopping along the way to enjoy the sites. They will meet in Hot Springs for a parade, car show and dinner.
Participation is limited. For more information, contact project coordinator Jennifer Wilson at Jennifer.Wilson@xxxxxxxx or (501) 975-7258.
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We're not very far from Harrison, AR so feel free to stop in and say hi!
Paul and Vicki Swanson
www.howardcreek.com
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Message: 19
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 21:18:58 -0800
From: Gary Barker <gbarker@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Crankcase venilation on 300's
Paul, I have a 301 V/8 from a 55 Chrysler and it only has a 2bbl. but
also has a after market thin spacer under the carb. It has the tube
connected for the PVC. The car came from the Bay Area and this was put
on as a after market setup from the early smog days. I saw these also in
LA in the early smog days.--Gary Barker
paul holmgren wrote:
>OK, having a picture of a factory setup, I need more info!!!
>
>Does ANYONE out there have a WCFB carb that is set up for a
>PCV system. I KNOW they exist, missed out on a carb from
>a single 4bbl instalation on e-bay the other week.
>
>I am Looking for a few closeup pics of the carb base
>
>
>
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Message: 20
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 22:24:51 -0700
From: "KELLY PIERCE" <jkrestor300@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Heel plates in K's and 66 300's
Greetings all! (and this is a letter car inquiry)
Today I found a 66 300 two door hardtop in our yard that has/had (I pulled them out) floor heel plates identical to the ones in all my K's. One reason I pulled them out was I wanted to see if they were added in by some owner, or if they were factory installed. What I found was on the driver side, there is a small "transition" piece between the K style plate and the gas pedal. The transition pieces is similar to a "normal" heel plate in the Non-Letter cars in that it is of the same material and make up of the standard heel plate, but it was formed to fit the K style plate and ended at the front edge of it, definitely factory made, making it about three inches wide. ( The other reason I pulled them was I was looking for good floor panels, so the carpet had to come out anyway)
My question is this- Was the K style heel plate a little checked off option? Was it part of a special option group? I do not have a 66 factory parts catalog to look them up in. The 66 in question was equipped with power buckets(vinyl) am search tune radio, auto on the floor w/console, No a/c, power windows, rear defroster, 440, ps, power discs, so you can see it was dressed up fairly well. I have not seen these in another 66 300. If these were available in 66 it would be another place for K owners to look for better heel plates for their K's. Any one have a answer? Thanks, Joe Pierce Whitehall, Mt. 300Kx3+M+others
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Message: 21
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 20:50:48 -0800
From: "Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: CHRYSLER 300 CARS
Agreed 100 percent. I found the insurance discussion very interesting and I
do have whitewall tires on my car and if there is a better way to clean
them, I want to know of it. I learn something everytime that I check in
and if it is remotely 300 related I am all eyes. And what is wrong with a
little debate on all car related topics. If we all agreed on every topic
we'd be a pretty boring bunch of old fogies.
It is not like we are the Chevy or Ford guys where you can find 30 others of
your car of choice within a 5 mile drive from your home. This listsrv gives
us all a chance to just generally BS with each other once in awhile and feel
that we are all together even when thousands of miles apart. Limiting it
strictly to 300 discussions would probably not have me taking a look
everyday to see what is going on with the rest of you all.
Just one man's idea on this.
Roger Schaaf
300 B Milpitas, Ca.
----- Original Message -----
From: "K. Eric Wolfe" <kewolfe@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "'Kenneth R. Smitley'" <Kens_Cars@xxxxxxx>;
<Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 8:11 PM
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] CHRYSLER 300 CARS
> I happen to like the comments referring to car insurance (very useful),
> car waxes and cleaners. They all go to support continued operation of
> the 300's.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kenneth R. Smitley [mailto:Kens_Cars@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 3:29 PM
> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [Chrysler300] CHRYSLER 300 CARS
>
>
>
> Dear Mr. Hertog:
>
> THANK YOU for reiterating the PURPOSE OF THIS FORUM!!!! I joined the
> club to relate more closely with people that have OLD Chrysler 300's,
> not to read a daily issuance of CRAP...These subjects range from the
> sale of a Dakota pickup to choices of WHITEWALL CLEANERS!!! I know you
> try to keep the group straight, but some of these people seem to have
> nothing else to do..
>
> I'm sure that I can count on one hand the times a C-300 Chrysler comment
> has been posted on this THE CHRYSLER 300 site in this past year...If you
> don't like the price of something DON'T buy it: if ya wanna play ya
> gotta pay.... A 48mpg VW TDI solves my gasoline
> problems...
>
> I certainly hope that this is not considered "chastising"
> ANYONE....Thank you sir, Ken Smitley...
>
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>
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Message: 22
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 06:30:38 EST
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Crankcase venilation on C-300 and 300 B
In a message dated 3/1/2004 6:23:19 PM Eastern Standard Time,
d.verity@xxxxxxx writes:
>
> I'm sure our head judge Gil Cunninham can clear this up better, but from
> what I understand, any type of equipment that the car DID NOT come with when
> it was built will have points deducted of in concours judging. The people
> who volunteer to have their cars judged this way should be prepared to have
> points deducted for non-stock items. This would include disc brake
> conversions, tires, seat belts (I'm really not sure how the club has been
> treating this one), engine swaps, electronic ignition, color changes, and on
> and on. This has been argued over extensively in the past and there is no
> point in starting it up again. If you want to modify your car and drive it
> the way it was meant, enter it in peoples choice. Concours is for factory
> correct cars, that are usually not driven extensively.
> 300ly,
> Don in RI
>
>
>
Thanks Don, for your explanation. Well said. The only clarification needed
is on the seatbelt question. Belts in good condition, of acceptable design
receive no points deduction. ("Unacceptable design" might mean push button
release with GM logo, for example). Additionally, we do not deduct points for
tires of the correct size, construction, and whitewall width. We do provide
minimal bonus points for Blue Streaks in acceptable condition. This has occured
on rare occasions---last Fall Meet being the most recent. Concours cars are
intended to be judged, to the best of our ability, on the basis of how they were
constructed when new. 300ly, Gil Cunningham
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Message: 23
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 07:05:26 EST
From: dan300f@xxxxxxx
Subject: Concours judging
In a message dated 3/2/04 3:33:03 AM Pacific Standard Time,
lettercars@xxxxxxx writes:
Concours is for factory
> correct cars, that are usually not driven extensively.
Gil:
Does this mean that if I purchase a brand new 300C, pick it up at the
factory, trailer it directly to a meet, and enter it in concours judging that I would
receive 1000 points in the judging? If not, why not?
Just asking.
Dan Reitz
Northridge, CA
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Message: 24
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 07:10:33 EST
From: lettercars@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Concours judging
Guess we would have to add 5 bonus points for Blue Streaks, as well, so
technically this hypothetical 300C would score 1005. Gil
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Message: 25
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:32:30 +0100
From: "Ulf Larsson" <ulf.larsson@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Parts
Hi group,
Anyone who can enlight me on the origin a Chrysler cast iron intake
mainfold I have found.
On top this dual carb intake mainfold the following number is casted;
182 78 99.
Grateful for a reply anyone and if letter car related on the list server
and if something else better to me directly.
Thanks,
Ulf Larsson, Sweden
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