Precisely my point - I saw that you were "only forwarding" what you had been sent, "ASSUMING" that Phil Kuyava had done his research correctly before passing on "misinformation", therefore the "60 Minutes" reference. Don't bother to check the facts: just "broadcast" it to a lot of people and they'll take it and run with it and let the chips fall where they may. My feelings weren't hurt in the least - it's just that you did exactly what Phil wanted you to...( Please forward this e-mail - especially to anyone you know who is thinking of purchasing a vehicle. Remember this the next time you make that move to buy your next car...New or used.....but don't check MY FACTS !!!!! ).....sounds like Phil has an agenda....... Bye for now..... Del Original Message----- From: Wieland, Elizabeth [mailto:EWieland@xxxx] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:06 PM To: 'Kerney, Delmar L (Del)' Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Ever wonder why Michigan is so loyal to the Big 3? Apparently you overlooked my FIRST paragraph which stated the following had been sent to me by Phil Kuyava (a DC engineer). I did not research anything. I only forwarded what I received. Sorry it hurt your feelings. Elizabeth Owner of a '95 Dodge Stratus 5-speed with 155,000, original clutch, exhaust system and nearly everything else. -----Original Message----- From: Kerney, Delmar L (Del) [mailto:Del.Kerney@xxxx] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 3:45 PM To: 'Wieland, Elizabeth' Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Ever wonder why Michigan is so loyal to the Big 3? You must have overlooked the following at the Audi website and/or not be aware that Audi is a subsidiary of VW.... AUBURN HILLS, Mich.-The employees and management of the Volkswagen Group (which include Audi and Volkswagen of America) have decided to create a Foundation to assist victims of terrorist attacks in the United States. The Foundation will be funded initially with $2 million dollars (US) from Volkswagen Group. I hope your research at the other sites was more thorough than this one... Thank you for the "60 Minutes" // Mike Wallace treatment of Audi.....my 86 Audi 5000s has 180,000 miles on it, still looks new and runs faultlessly at any speed I choose, not a squeak or rattle on it and I'll have it for another 12 years unless I buy another newer one.. Del Kerney 61 300G Audi 5000S, VW Jetta GLI, Oldsmobile Cutlass, VW Golf A61300G@xxxx -----Original Message----- From: Wieland, Elizabeth [mailto:EWieland@xxxx] Sent: Friday, October 05, 2001 1:35 PM To: CHRysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Chrysler300] Ever wonder why Michigan is so loyal to the Big 3? I received this from Phil Kuyava. Thought it was interesting enough to pass along ~ even though it doesn't address 300s! I'm not sure who he got if from but ... After seeing a short news listing on "CNN Headline News" regarding Ford and GM's contributions to the relief and recovery efforts in New York City and Washington D.C., I was prompted to see what the other automotive companies were contributing. I have never worked for an automotive company - nor has anyone in my family. It is, however, the prominent industry here in Michigan. I also feel it is important to know which companies are there for us in a crisis. I went to (the news, press release and philanthropic areas of) each of the companies' web sites. If the company had several sites, I tried to visit them all. Additionally, I visited the leading news and automotive sites. As of today, one week since the attacks, this is what I have found: Aston Martin - Nothing. Audi - Nothing. Audi's web site states "Audi News: Always up to the minute." BMW - Nothing despite other press releases/postings since 09/11/01 BMW's web site states "The news service from the BMW Group: Fast, informative and comprehensive." Last updated 09/13/01. Daewoo International - Nothing. Daimler Chrysler (includes Dodge, Jeep, Mercedes-Benz and Plymouth) $10 million to support the children and victims in addition to other donations from their employees, dealers and suppliers. Fiat - Nothing. Ford Motor Company (includes Jaguar, Lincoln, Mazda, Mercury and Volvo) $1 million to the American Red Cross, matching employee contributions to the American Red Cross and 10 Excursions to the New York Fire Department. The company has also offered emergency response team services and office space to displaced government employees. General Motors (includes Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, Oldsmobile, Pontiac,Saab and Saturn) - $1 million to the American Red Cross, matching employee contributions and a fleet of vans, trucks and SUVs. Honda (includes Acura) - Nothing. Honda's site states, "If you're looking for the latest developments taking place at Honda, you've come to the right place" and "Informative. Timely. Credible. The latest news on Honda can always be found right here?" No press releases/postings since 09/04/01 when the release boasted "American Honda Motor Co., Inc. recorded its second best sales month ever in August." My search included: hondamotorcycle.com (other press releases posted on this site since 09/11/01), honda.com, honda2001.com, world.honda.com, acura.com and honda.co.jp. Hyundai Motors Group (includes Kia) - $300,000 to the American Red Cross. Isuzu - Nothing. Mitsubishi Motors - Nothing. Mitsubishi-motors.co.jp site states, "The latest news about Mitsubishi Motors." I also searched mitsubishimotors.com. Nissan - Nothing despite other press releases/postings since 09/11/01. Porsche - Press release with condolences posted on the Porsche web site on 09/12/01, but no contribution. Subaru - Nothing despite other press releases/postings since 09/11/01. Suzuki - Nothing. Toyota (includes Lexus) - Press release with condolences posted on the Toyota web site on 09/14/01, but no contribution, despite earlier press releases boasting that Toyota had high sales in July and August. Volkswagen - The employees and management created a Foundation, funded initially with $2 million, to assist the children and victims with humanitarian help including medical and psychological assistance, rehabilitation and scholarships. I can only hope that it is an oversight by the companies that have not made a contribution and that they will join the relief efforts. We have the freedom to choose which companies we make purchases from and I, for one, will make my purchases from and give my money to the companies that are giving their money to America at this time of need. I hope that you will, too. Please forward this e-mail - especially to anyone you know who is thinking of purchasing a vehicle. Remember this the next time you make that move to buy your next car...New or used..... Who gave what to help OUR Beautiful United States of America......... **************************************************************************** The information contained in this transmission, which may be confidential and proprietary, is only for the intended recipients. Unauthorized use is strictly prohibited. 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