Re: [Chrysler300] 500 ci

["Don Verity" <d.verity@xxxx>]

Hi All,
I have to dispute Don's letter about rams not working on non-ram type
engines. My F has a 69 440 in it. It has a basically stock rebuild with the
reproduction 440 magnum cam. I have the 300-F ram set-up on it with heat
tubes and automatic chokes, there are no heat riser components though. It's
got stock 2903S carbs. This set-up always started well and could be driven
immediately. It was actually better cold than my stock G! I also had a 62
torqueflite, with a higher than stock stall converter. With 3.23 gears it
had run a best of 14.33 in the quarter mile! ANY engine that is over cammed.
or not set-up right is going to run bad.
300ly,
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Donald L Smallwood <zincspot@xxxx>
To: <dan300f@xxxx>
Cc: <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 500 ci


> Dan and all RAM guys,
>
> I have only practical experience with Ram cars but I have learned that
> the factory ram spec. cam and functioning heat tubes are a must if your
> goal is to have a Ram equipped vehicle that is driveable.
>
> I patched together a setup for a 59 DeSoto that didn't work well. 440
> with mag cam, ram tubes with no heat, carbs with manual chokes. I know
> what most of you are thinking - What was I thinking about! Well it was a
> disappointment because it took 15 minutes after starting to get enough
> heat build up in the ram tubes to keep it running without constantly
> pumping the gas pedal and if you attempted to drive it before the tubes
> were warm it would buck and jump and backfire and stall! After it warmed
> up it ran but was a disappointment because the cam wasn't correct for the
> ram tubes!
>
> A few years later I acquired a 60 Dart Phoenix with a 383 factory ram
> setup. It was unmolested and the performance is impressive with good
> drive ability.
>
> Just recently I acquired a 61 Fury that the previous owner had attempted
> to jerry rig a ram setup on. It ran just like my DeSoto so I started from
> scratch. Built a 383 with 10:1 compression, ordered a stock ram cam from
> the club store, installed a pair of 500 cfm Carters with electric chokes,
> hooked up the heat tubes, installed a set of duals with noisy mufflers
> and a 3.23 gear. We used the Petronix ignition system. The result is
> outstanding, there is nothing that sounds quite like a RAM equipped car
> under full throttle. It makes you think the hood is going to get sucked
> right through the carbs! The car has enough torque that I installed a
> 2.76 shur grip and still have all the acceleration that I need and with
> the loud pipes it doesn't roar quite so much at highway speeds. If I
> could do anything different I would use the 2903S carbs but they are hard
> to find in decent condition. So we settled for new Carters and jetted
> them down a bit but they probably supply more cfm than needed.
>
> I'm rounding up the RAM parts for a 61 Belvedere to be powered with a 30
> over 440 with 6 pac internals, will use a stock ram cam and long tubes. I
> have the engine and the exhaust manifolds. I could use a set of re
> buildable 2903S carbs.
>
> I guess the moral of this story is that the engineers at Chrysler knew
> what they were doing!
>
> Don Smallwood
>
>
>
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