Aussie Christopher, I'll bite seeing no one else did. What's the third "landmark production" car you would nominate?? You gave us two! How about the 1955 C300? That's the one that started America down the road of the muscle car era that lasted into the early 1970s. I know others have their opinions but as far as I'm concerned, everyone in America was chasing Chrysler for the next 10 years or more after 1955. Brian Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Jones <hurst300@xxxx> To: christopher beilby <thelastbestgenius@xxxx>; <lajugle@xxxx>; <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 10:35 PM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] new 300C's and what cars does D-C wish tobuild/sell??? > Well written, Mate! > Ray Jones > > > From: "christopher beilby" <thelastbestgenius@xxxx> > > Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 12:37:48 +1000 > > To: lajugle@xxxx, Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] new 300C's and what cars does D-C wish to > > build/sell??? > > > > With regard to what name Chrysler should use on it's new hemi car - I note > > one detractor says in effect 'get on with your life, it (the 300C) was too > > long ago. A pity he did not indicate what cars he owns, or has owned, what > > 300Cs, etc.. May I suggest he and other like minded people let us practice > > our democratic right to say what we think, and those not interested just > > delete us un-read?! > > > > I repeat my previous message's thought - if we had not saved these early 300 > > letter cars, D-C would not wish to re-use their names !!?? > > > > I purchased my first 300C in Feb 1981, I had to come to America to buy it, > > brought it on a hunch it should be a great drivers car, this apart from it's > > looks. > > > > My first car was a 30 A Ford Roadster, and every car since I have owned to > > drive, my most most normal car a 1972 Lambo Espada, and for 27 years I owned > > perhaps the ultimate fun/road performance car, a 385bhp 1967 AC Cobra Mk III > > (289 hipo motor in coil spring chassis, the best ever Cobra, not the more > > common 'unsafe to push hard' cast iron 427). > > > > I have owned and driven over 100 cars, and some are very memorable because > > they were just so enjoyable to drive compared to others that should have > > been the same. ( An example - the 1937 Buick Century is a brilliant car to > > drive compared to drive to Packard's 120 series 8 cylinder, maybe because > > the Packard steering is too slow, a cheap nasty floor gearchange - who > > knows?! ) > > > > I believe when the definitive history of 'cars before 2000' is written, > > there will be three landmark production cars recognised, this because they > > possessed so uncommon looks and performance advances way beyond the rest of > > industry. > > > > Firstly I nominate the Lamborghini Espada - outstanding looks, that > > magnificent V-12, and the world's first mass selling rear engine V-12 - it > > sold in thousands which Ford GT 40 cannot claim. For all it's low looks, you > > can sit in the driver's seat and see and drive so easily. > > > > The second contendor has to be the 1957 300C - most other prduction sedans > > were struggling to do 120mph - a well tuned a C can do 140 mph. Add to this > > anti-dive torsoin bar suspension maybe 10 years before Europe, the ultimate > > form 392 original hemi, and that so unique/outstanding body shape, > > grille,simple but effective interior, etc.. > > > > Argue all you like, Chrsyler created a true masterpiece. The 300C owes it's > > place to the 300B and the first 300, this apart from the added bonus that on > > today's radials it is a blast to drive, this so hard to make happen. > > > > What I am leading to, is what sort of cars does Chrysler wish to build ??!! > > Chrysler should not need to try and con people into thinking they are > > buying a piece of history to sell a Chrysler, by re-using the 300C name. > > > > Chrysler has a perhaps equal 'hemi heritage' - the basic design still rules > > the drag strips - 50 years of winning, unrivalled in history for one design > > !!?? Chrysler should shout it's hemi heritage loud and long? > > > > But at the end of it all, if Chrysler is half smart, it should try and BUILD > > NEW DRIVER'S CARS - NEW LEGENDS. They are the cars buyers seek out, need no > > fancy names or advertising. > > > > A more appropriate name for their new car is - the new CHRYSLER HEMI. At > > the worst they could call it the HEMI C. Kids, most all new buyers today, > > do not know what a 300C is, but hey, a hell of a lot more know of the > > 'Chrysler Hemi'. The new car is not a 300, never can be close as a 4dr, > > etc., but it is a hemi. Tell them to go with that, plus it will sell a lot > > easier, better. And if it is just 'half a driver's car', maybe the demand > > will grow, and they bring out a coupe/roadster worthy of the 300 logo?! > > > > yours > > > > Aussie Christopher > > > > I b > > > > > >> From: "L.Andrew Jugle" <lajugle@xxxx> > >> To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> Subject: [Chrysler300] How many years did they build 300C's???...... > >> Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 22:37:46 -0000 > >> > >> One half, just like the other 300 letter car limited editions. > >> > >> For years in the sixties and seventies one would come across DEALERS > >> who said the 300's were never built!!! ....because they had never > >> seen one. It was the Japanese that inspired cookie cutter > >> production of identical cars to cut programming costs. Remember those > >> days of advertised $3,000 cars and everyone on the lot was $4,500??? > >> > >> People forget that the early 300's were equivalent to TWO Corvettes > >> or THREE T-birds if you loaded the Brute and scammed the plastic toy > >> or Bird. ....and the 300 was built to order only, meaning you > >> ordered your car and WAITED a few months for it to be built. No > >> walking the lots looking for the Parade Green one. > >> > >> It was a whole different world. A world only RR, Bentley and few > >> others can afford. > >> > >> L.Andrew Jugle, Elmhurst,IL > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Hotmail now available on Australian mobile phones. 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